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What is the highest number of sneak attacks that a Pure/High Level Rogue (Level 17+) can make in one round?
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Rogues only get one sneak attack per turn. Which means that they can only get it once on their turn and once with their reaction (through Sentinel or a Battle Master's Commander's Strike or an Attack of Opportunity, etc.). At level 17, Scouts also get the ability, Sudden Strike, which allows them to use their sneak attack as a bonus action.
So then is three sneak attacks per round the highest number of Sneak Attacks a Pure/High Level Rogue (17 levels+) can make in one round, or is there another way to get more Sneak Attacks in one round?
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Rogues only get one sneak attack per turn. Which means that they can only get it once on their turn and once with their reaction (through Sentinel or a Battle Master's Commander's Strike or an Attack of Opportunity, etc.). At level 17, Scouts also get the ability, Sudden Strike, which allows them to use their sneak attack as a bonus action.
So then is three sneak attacks per round the highest number of Sneak Attacks a Pure/High Level Rogue (17 levels+) can make in one round, or is there another way to get more Sneak Attacks in one round?
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or optional rules, like marking?
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And, if you are allowing multiclassing, how many levels of Rogue do you require this build to have to still count for your purposes?
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I was really thinking more along the lines of a pure rogue without optional rules, although I suppose that just "mostly" rogue (17+ levels) would count for my purposes. I saw the "Vigilant Defender" feature, and that was definitely not what I was looking for. That only leaves 2 levels for rogue, and at that point (level 19 and 20), an extra d6 would not be that big of a deal.
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Rogues only get one sneak attack per turn. Which means that they can only get it once on their turn and once with their reaction (through Sentinel or a Battle Master's Commander's Strike or an Attack of Opportunity, etc.). At level 17, Scouts also get the ability, Sudden Strike, which allows them to use their sneak attack as a bonus action.
So then is three sneak attacks per round the highest number of Sneak Attacks a Pure/High Level Rogue (17 levels+) can make in one round, or is there another way to get more Sneak Attacks in one round?
dnd-5e optimization sneak-attack reactions
asked 9 hours ago
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Rogues only get one sneak attack per turn. Which means that they can only get it once on their turn and once with their reaction (through Sentinel or a Battle Master's Commander's Strike or an Attack of Opportunity, etc.). At level 17, Scouts also get the ability, Sudden Strike, which allows them to use their sneak attack as a bonus action.
So then is three sneak attacks per round the highest number of Sneak Attacks a Pure/High Level Rogue (17 levels+) can make in one round, or is there another way to get more Sneak Attacks in one round?
dnd-5e optimization sneak-attack reactions
dnd-5e optimization sneak-attack reactions
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Are you allowing multi class and /or UA?
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– SeriousBri
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or optional rules, like marking?
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– goodguy5
9 hours ago
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And, if you are allowing multiclassing, how many levels of Rogue do you require this build to have to still count for your purposes?
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– Rubiksmoose♦
9 hours ago
1
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I was really thinking more along the lines of a pure rogue without optional rules, although I suppose that just "mostly" rogue (17+ levels) would count for my purposes. I saw the "Vigilant Defender" feature, and that was definitely not what I was looking for. That only leaves 2 levels for rogue, and at that point (level 19 and 20), an extra d6 would not be that big of a deal.
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– KelvintheWizard
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And that's why putting limiters on your questions are important, folks!
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– NautArch
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Are you allowing multi class and /or UA?
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– SeriousBri
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or optional rules, like marking?
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– goodguy5
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And, if you are allowing multiclassing, how many levels of Rogue do you require this build to have to still count for your purposes?
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– Rubiksmoose♦
9 hours ago
1
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I was really thinking more along the lines of a pure rogue without optional rules, although I suppose that just "mostly" rogue (17+ levels) would count for my purposes. I saw the "Vigilant Defender" feature, and that was definitely not what I was looking for. That only leaves 2 levels for rogue, and at that point (level 19 and 20), an extra d6 would not be that big of a deal.
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– KelvintheWizard
9 hours ago
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And that's why putting limiters on your questions are important, folks!
$endgroup$
– NautArch
9 hours ago
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Are you allowing multi class and /or UA?
$endgroup$
– SeriousBri
9 hours ago
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Are you allowing multi class and /or UA?
$endgroup$
– SeriousBri
9 hours ago
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or optional rules, like marking?
$endgroup$
– goodguy5
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$begingroup$
or optional rules, like marking?
$endgroup$
– goodguy5
9 hours ago
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And, if you are allowing multiclassing, how many levels of Rogue do you require this build to have to still count for your purposes?
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– Rubiksmoose♦
9 hours ago
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And, if you are allowing multiclassing, how many levels of Rogue do you require this build to have to still count for your purposes?
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– Rubiksmoose♦
9 hours ago
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I was really thinking more along the lines of a pure rogue without optional rules, although I suppose that just "mostly" rogue (17+ levels) would count for my purposes. I saw the "Vigilant Defender" feature, and that was definitely not what I was looking for. That only leaves 2 levels for rogue, and at that point (level 19 and 20), an extra d6 would not be that big of a deal.
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– KelvintheWizard
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I was really thinking more along the lines of a pure rogue without optional rules, although I suppose that just "mostly" rogue (17+ levels) would count for my purposes. I saw the "Vigilant Defender" feature, and that was definitely not what I was looking for. That only leaves 2 levels for rogue, and at that point (level 19 and 20), an extra d6 would not be that big of a deal.
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– KelvintheWizard
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And that's why putting limiters on your questions are important, folks!
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Technically, five.
Our Thief Rogue 17 (Ace) has three Battlemaster friends (Bart, Carol, and Dave). They roll initiative. Bart is first followed by Ace, then Carol, then Ace again, then Dave.
Bart uses Commander's Strike to allow Ace to sneak attack (1) with his Reaction.
Ace starts his turn, so his Reaction is ready again. Ace sneak attacks with an Attack action (2).
Carol uses Commander's Strike to allow Ace to sneak attack (3) with his Reaction.
Ace starts his turn, so his Reaction is ready again. Ace sneak attacks with an Attack action (4).
Dave uses Commander's Strike to allow Ace to sneak attack (5) with his Reaction.
This uses (abuses, really) the Thief's ability to take two entire turns during a single round, and also "steals" a reaction from the next round due to the wibbly-wobbly mechanics of how action recharge doesn't quite match up with rounds.
Mechanical abuse that doesn't quite match up with the spirit of the question would be to use a scroll of Shapechange to turn into a Marilith (credit to Miniman), which can take a reaction every turn of combat - thereby allowing one sneak attack per active combatant.
If multiclassing and having a very weak sneak attack is allowed, the possibilities are Infinite.
A Fighter (Cavalier) 18 / Rogue 2 can make an opportunity attack on every turn without using his reaction, and could feasibly sneak attack an infinite number of creatures (Arcane Gate or other mass translocation spells can provide ample space for creatures to start their turns close enough to move in/out and provoke) who choose to provoke opportunity attacks from him.
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Technically, five.
Our Thief Rogue 17 (Ace) has three Battlemaster friends (Bart, Carol, and Dave). They roll initiative. Bart is first followed by Ace, then Carol, then Ace again, then Dave.
Bart uses Commander's Strike to allow Ace to sneak attack (1) with his Reaction.
Ace starts his turn, so his Reaction is ready again. Ace sneak attacks with an Attack action (2).
Carol uses Commander's Strike to allow Ace to sneak attack (3) with his Reaction.
Ace starts his turn, so his Reaction is ready again. Ace sneak attacks with an Attack action (4).
Dave uses Commander's Strike to allow Ace to sneak attack (5) with his Reaction.
This uses (abuses, really) the Thief's ability to take two entire turns during a single round, and also "steals" a reaction from the next round due to the wibbly-wobbly mechanics of how action recharge doesn't quite match up with rounds.
Mechanical abuse that doesn't quite match up with the spirit of the question would be to use a scroll of Shapechange to turn into a Marilith (credit to Miniman), which can take a reaction every turn of combat - thereby allowing one sneak attack per active combatant.
If multiclassing and having a very weak sneak attack is allowed, the possibilities are Infinite.
A Fighter (Cavalier) 18 / Rogue 2 can make an opportunity attack on every turn without using his reaction, and could feasibly sneak attack an infinite number of creatures (Arcane Gate or other mass translocation spells can provide ample space for creatures to start their turns close enough to move in/out and provoke) who choose to provoke opportunity attacks from him.
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Technically, five.
Our Thief Rogue 17 (Ace) has three Battlemaster friends (Bart, Carol, and Dave). They roll initiative. Bart is first followed by Ace, then Carol, then Ace again, then Dave.
Bart uses Commander's Strike to allow Ace to sneak attack (1) with his Reaction.
Ace starts his turn, so his Reaction is ready again. Ace sneak attacks with an Attack action (2).
Carol uses Commander's Strike to allow Ace to sneak attack (3) with his Reaction.
Ace starts his turn, so his Reaction is ready again. Ace sneak attacks with an Attack action (4).
Dave uses Commander's Strike to allow Ace to sneak attack (5) with his Reaction.
This uses (abuses, really) the Thief's ability to take two entire turns during a single round, and also "steals" a reaction from the next round due to the wibbly-wobbly mechanics of how action recharge doesn't quite match up with rounds.
Mechanical abuse that doesn't quite match up with the spirit of the question would be to use a scroll of Shapechange to turn into a Marilith (credit to Miniman), which can take a reaction every turn of combat - thereby allowing one sneak attack per active combatant.
If multiclassing and having a very weak sneak attack is allowed, the possibilities are Infinite.
A Fighter (Cavalier) 18 / Rogue 2 can make an opportunity attack on every turn without using his reaction, and could feasibly sneak attack an infinite number of creatures (Arcane Gate or other mass translocation spells can provide ample space for creatures to start their turns close enough to move in/out and provoke) who choose to provoke opportunity attacks from him.
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Technically, five.
Our Thief Rogue 17 (Ace) has three Battlemaster friends (Bart, Carol, and Dave). They roll initiative. Bart is first followed by Ace, then Carol, then Ace again, then Dave.
Bart uses Commander's Strike to allow Ace to sneak attack (1) with his Reaction.
Ace starts his turn, so his Reaction is ready again. Ace sneak attacks with an Attack action (2).
Carol uses Commander's Strike to allow Ace to sneak attack (3) with his Reaction.
Ace starts his turn, so his Reaction is ready again. Ace sneak attacks with an Attack action (4).
Dave uses Commander's Strike to allow Ace to sneak attack (5) with his Reaction.
This uses (abuses, really) the Thief's ability to take two entire turns during a single round, and also "steals" a reaction from the next round due to the wibbly-wobbly mechanics of how action recharge doesn't quite match up with rounds.
Mechanical abuse that doesn't quite match up with the spirit of the question would be to use a scroll of Shapechange to turn into a Marilith (credit to Miniman), which can take a reaction every turn of combat - thereby allowing one sneak attack per active combatant.
If multiclassing and having a very weak sneak attack is allowed, the possibilities are Infinite.
A Fighter (Cavalier) 18 / Rogue 2 can make an opportunity attack on every turn without using his reaction, and could feasibly sneak attack an infinite number of creatures (Arcane Gate or other mass translocation spells can provide ample space for creatures to start their turns close enough to move in/out and provoke) who choose to provoke opportunity attacks from him.
answered 9 hours ago
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Technically, five.
Our Thief Rogue 17 (Ace) has three Battlemaster friends (Bart, Carol, and Dave). They roll initiative. Bart is first followed by Ace, then Carol, then Ace again, then Dave.
Bart uses Commander's Strike to allow Ace to sneak attack (1) with his Reaction.
Ace starts his turn, so his Reaction is ready again. Ace sneak attacks with an Attack action (2).
Carol uses Commander's Strike to allow Ace to sneak attack (3) with his Reaction.
Ace starts his turn, so his Reaction is ready again. Ace sneak attacks with an Attack action (4).
Dave uses Commander's Strike to allow Ace to sneak attack (5) with his Reaction.
This uses (abuses, really) the Thief's ability to take two entire turns during a single round, and also "steals" a reaction from the next round due to the wibbly-wobbly mechanics of how action recharge doesn't quite match up with rounds.
Mechanical abuse that doesn't quite match up with the spirit of the question would be to use a scroll of Shapechange to turn into a Marilith (credit to Miniman), which can take a reaction every turn of combat - thereby allowing one sneak attack per active combatant.
If multiclassing and having a very weak sneak attack is allowed, the possibilities are Infinite.
A Fighter (Cavalier) 18 / Rogue 2 can make an opportunity attack on every turn without using his reaction, and could feasibly sneak attack an infinite number of creatures (Arcane Gate or other mass translocation spells can provide ample space for creatures to start their turns close enough to move in/out and provoke) who choose to provoke opportunity attacks from him.
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– SeriousBri
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or optional rules, like marking?
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– goodguy5
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And, if you are allowing multiclassing, how many levels of Rogue do you require this build to have to still count for your purposes?
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– Rubiksmoose♦
9 hours ago
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I was really thinking more along the lines of a pure rogue without optional rules, although I suppose that just "mostly" rogue (17+ levels) would count for my purposes. I saw the "Vigilant Defender" feature, and that was definitely not what I was looking for. That only leaves 2 levels for rogue, and at that point (level 19 and 20), an extra d6 would not be that big of a deal.
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And that's why putting limiters on your questions are important, folks!
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– NautArch
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