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Is there a list of words that will enable the second player in two-player Ghost to always win?
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I read in an old puzzle book of mine (I don't remember what it was called, but it had an orange hardback cover and featured only original puzzles) that it is possible to create a list of words that would ensure the second player victory in two person Ghost (a classic word game) every time. For example, starting with C would result in CWM, resulting in victory for the second player. Starting with B would result in BWANA.
Assuming that a three-letter word or longer gets one out, and using the newest official word list from Scrabble as the word source (that's like the OSPD but includes censored words), is this indeed possible, and what are the words?
(For bonus points give me a list assuming four-or-longer as well.)
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I read in an old puzzle book of mine (I don't remember what it was called, but it had an orange hardback cover and featured only original puzzles) that it is possible to create a list of words that would ensure the second player victory in two person Ghost (a classic word game) every time. For example, starting with C would result in CWM, resulting in victory for the second player. Starting with B would result in BWANA.
Assuming that a three-letter word or longer gets one out, and using the newest official word list from Scrabble as the word source (that's like the OSPD but includes censored words), is this indeed possible, and what are the words?
(For bonus points give me a list assuming four-or-longer as well.)
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Can someone who is familiar with Ruby run this script: github.com/hickford/ghost on the OWL4 wordlist?
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I read in an old puzzle book of mine (I don't remember what it was called, but it had an orange hardback cover and featured only original puzzles) that it is possible to create a list of words that would ensure the second player victory in two person Ghost (a classic word game) every time. For example, starting with C would result in CWM, resulting in victory for the second player. Starting with B would result in BWANA.
Assuming that a three-letter word or longer gets one out, and using the newest official word list from Scrabble as the word source (that's like the OSPD but includes censored words), is this indeed possible, and what are the words?
(For bonus points give me a list assuming four-or-longer as well.)
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I read in an old puzzle book of mine (I don't remember what it was called, but it had an orange hardback cover and featured only original puzzles) that it is possible to create a list of words that would ensure the second player victory in two person Ghost (a classic word game) every time. For example, starting with C would result in CWM, resulting in victory for the second player. Starting with B would result in BWANA.
Assuming that a three-letter word or longer gets one out, and using the newest official word list from Scrabble as the word source (that's like the OSPD but includes censored words), is this indeed possible, and what are the words?
(For bonus points give me a list assuming four-or-longer as well.)
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Can someone who is familiar with Ruby run this script: github.com/hickford/ghost on the OWL4 wordlist?
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Can someone who is familiar with Ruby run this script: github.com/hickford/ghost on the OWL4 wordlist?
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Can someone who is familiar with Ruby run this script: github.com/hickford/ghost on the OWL4 wordlist?
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Can someone who is familiar with Ruby run this script: github.com/hickford/ghost on the OWL4 wordlist?
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isn’t possible for player 2 to always win (or even for one player to always win) as shown by Randall Munroe’s XKCD blog. If I understand your question correctly, player 1 beginning with H, J, M, or Z will win Player 1 the game every time; player 2 will win the game every other time. Sample lists are found for each letter in the link above.
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"(I hear if you use the Scrabble wordlist, it’s always a win for the second player)." That is what I'm referring to.
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6 hours ago
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I don’t get your question, @TheAsh. One of the words in the link is hazard. I’m pretty sure that’s in the Scrabble word list and a win for player 1.....
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6 hours ago
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no that's not true. HMM is in the Scrabble word list, allowing the second player to win with H by replying with 'M'. Your link does give me enough info to try to solve it for the Scrabble wordlist though.
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6 hours ago
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MMM is good as well, allowing a winning response for M.
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– TheAsh
6 hours ago
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ZZZ is good too, so Z is a response to Z, allowing the second player to win. J is the only letter that needs further thought
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The book is David Silverman's Your Move.
Another easy 2nd-player win the author mentions is DV forcing the first player into DVANDVA or DVORNIK.
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This is great, but not an answer.
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It
isn’t possible for player 2 to always win (or even for one player to always win) as shown by Randall Munroe’s XKCD blog. If I understand your question correctly, player 1 beginning with H, J, M, or Z will win Player 1 the game every time; player 2 will win the game every other time. Sample lists are found for each letter in the link above.
answered 7 hours ago
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"(I hear if you use the Scrabble wordlist, it’s always a win for the second player)." That is what I'm referring to.
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– TheAsh
6 hours ago
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I don’t get your question, @TheAsh. One of the words in the link is hazard. I’m pretty sure that’s in the Scrabble word list and a win for player 1.....
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– El-Guest
6 hours ago
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no that's not true. HMM is in the Scrabble word list, allowing the second player to win with H by replying with 'M'. Your link does give me enough info to try to solve it for the Scrabble wordlist though.
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– TheAsh
6 hours ago
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MMM is good as well, allowing a winning response for M.
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– TheAsh
6 hours ago
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ZZZ is good too, so Z is a response to Z, allowing the second player to win. J is the only letter that needs further thought
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– TheAsh
6 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
It
isn’t possible for player 2 to always win (or even for one player to always win) as shown by Randall Munroe’s XKCD blog. If I understand your question correctly, player 1 beginning with H, J, M, or Z will win Player 1 the game every time; player 2 will win the game every other time. Sample lists are found for each letter in the link above.
answered 7 hours ago
El-GuestEl-Guest
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"(I hear if you use the Scrabble wordlist, it’s always a win for the second player)." That is what I'm referring to.
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– TheAsh
6 hours ago
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I don’t get your question, @TheAsh. One of the words in the link is hazard. I’m pretty sure that’s in the Scrabble word list and a win for player 1.....
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– El-Guest
6 hours ago
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no that's not true. HMM is in the Scrabble word list, allowing the second player to win with H by replying with 'M'. Your link does give me enough info to try to solve it for the Scrabble wordlist though.
$endgroup$
– TheAsh
6 hours ago
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MMM is good as well, allowing a winning response for M.
$endgroup$
– TheAsh
6 hours ago
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ZZZ is good too, so Z is a response to Z, allowing the second player to win. J is the only letter that needs further thought
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– TheAsh
6 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
It
isn’t possible for player 2 to always win (or even for one player to always win) as shown by Randall Munroe’s XKCD blog. If I understand your question correctly, player 1 beginning with H, J, M, or Z will win Player 1 the game every time; player 2 will win the game every other time. Sample lists are found for each letter in the link above.
answered 7 hours ago
El-GuestEl-Guest
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It
isn’t possible for player 2 to always win (or even for one player to always win) as shown by Randall Munroe’s XKCD blog. If I understand your question correctly, player 1 beginning with H, J, M, or Z will win Player 1 the game every time; player 2 will win the game every other time. Sample lists are found for each letter in the link above.
answered 7 hours ago
El-GuestEl-Guest
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answered 7 hours ago
El-GuestEl-Guest
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answered 7 hours ago
El-GuestEl-Guest
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"(I hear if you use the Scrabble wordlist, it’s always a win for the second player)." That is what I'm referring to.
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– TheAsh
6 hours ago
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I don’t get your question, @TheAsh. One of the words in the link is hazard. I’m pretty sure that’s in the Scrabble word list and a win for player 1.....
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– El-Guest
6 hours ago
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no that's not true. HMM is in the Scrabble word list, allowing the second player to win with H by replying with 'M'. Your link does give me enough info to try to solve it for the Scrabble wordlist though.
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– TheAsh
6 hours ago
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MMM is good as well, allowing a winning response for M.
$endgroup$
– TheAsh
6 hours ago
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ZZZ is good too, so Z is a response to Z, allowing the second player to win. J is the only letter that needs further thought
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– TheAsh
6 hours ago
add a comment |
1
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"(I hear if you use the Scrabble wordlist, it’s always a win for the second player)." That is what I'm referring to.
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– TheAsh
6 hours ago
1
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I don’t get your question, @TheAsh. One of the words in the link is hazard. I’m pretty sure that’s in the Scrabble word list and a win for player 1.....
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– El-Guest
6 hours ago
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no that's not true. HMM is in the Scrabble word list, allowing the second player to win with H by replying with 'M'. Your link does give me enough info to try to solve it for the Scrabble wordlist though.
$endgroup$
– TheAsh
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
MMM is good as well, allowing a winning response for M.
$endgroup$
– TheAsh
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
ZZZ is good too, so Z is a response to Z, allowing the second player to win. J is the only letter that needs further thought
$endgroup$
– TheAsh
6 hours ago
1
1
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"(I hear if you use the Scrabble wordlist, it’s always a win for the second player)." That is what I'm referring to.
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– TheAsh
6 hours ago
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"(I hear if you use the Scrabble wordlist, it’s always a win for the second player)." That is what I'm referring to.
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– TheAsh
6 hours ago
1
1
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I don’t get your question, @TheAsh. One of the words in the link is hazard. I’m pretty sure that’s in the Scrabble word list and a win for player 1.....
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– El-Guest
6 hours ago
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I don’t get your question, @TheAsh. One of the words in the link is hazard. I’m pretty sure that’s in the Scrabble word list and a win for player 1.....
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– El-Guest
6 hours ago
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no that's not true. HMM is in the Scrabble word list, allowing the second player to win with H by replying with 'M'. Your link does give me enough info to try to solve it for the Scrabble wordlist though.
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– TheAsh
6 hours ago
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no that's not true. HMM is in the Scrabble word list, allowing the second player to win with H by replying with 'M'. Your link does give me enough info to try to solve it for the Scrabble wordlist though.
$endgroup$
– TheAsh
6 hours ago
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MMM is good as well, allowing a winning response for M.
$endgroup$
– TheAsh
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
MMM is good as well, allowing a winning response for M.
$endgroup$
– TheAsh
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
ZZZ is good too, so Z is a response to Z, allowing the second player to win. J is the only letter that needs further thought
$endgroup$
– TheAsh
6 hours ago
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ZZZ is good too, so Z is a response to Z, allowing the second player to win. J is the only letter that needs further thought
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– TheAsh
6 hours ago
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The book is David Silverman's Your Move.
Another easy 2nd-player win the author mentions is DV forcing the first player into DVANDVA or DVORNIK.
answered 7 hours ago
Rosie FRosie F
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This is great, but not an answer.
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– TheAsh
5 hours ago
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The book is David Silverman's Your Move.
Another easy 2nd-player win the author mentions is DV forcing the first player into DVANDVA or DVORNIK.
answered 7 hours ago
Rosie FRosie F
6,2282 gold badges10 silver badges45 bronze badges
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This is great, but not an answer.
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– TheAsh
5 hours ago
add a comment |
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The book is David Silverman's Your Move.
Another easy 2nd-player win the author mentions is DV forcing the first player into DVANDVA or DVORNIK.
answered 7 hours ago
Rosie FRosie F
6,2282 gold badges10 silver badges45 bronze badges
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The book is David Silverman's Your Move.
Another easy 2nd-player win the author mentions is DV forcing the first player into DVANDVA or DVORNIK.
answered 7 hours ago
Rosie FRosie F
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answered 7 hours ago
Rosie FRosie F
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answered 7 hours ago
Rosie FRosie F
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answered 7 hours ago
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This is great, but not an answer.
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This is great, but not an answer.
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This is great, but not an answer.
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Can someone who is familiar with Ruby run this script: github.com/hickford/ghost on the OWL4 wordlist?
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– TheAsh
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