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If I multiclass into Wizard, do I automatically begin with a spellbook?
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If I multiclass into Wizard, do I automatically begin with a spellbook?
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If I multiclass into Wizard, do I automatically begin with a spellbook?
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If I multiclass into Wizard, do I automatically begin with a spellbook?
I'm looking for support within the written rules. Designer intent is a consideration, but their intent should be well supported in order to be accepted. If using intent, please review the tweet's logic within the rules to support it.
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Yes, you are granted a spellbook by your spellcasting.
Spellcasting (PHB 114):
As a student of arcane magic, you have a spellbook containing spells
that show the first glimmerings of your true power.
So you have a spellbook, disregarding how you got it.
Class Features (PHB 164):
When you gain a new level in a class, you get its features for that
level.
Spellcasting is a class feature that has some additonal rules tied to it.
Spellcasting (PHB 164):
Your capacity for spellcasting depends partly on your combined levels
in all your spellcasting classes and partly on your individual levels
in those classes.
As the additional rules do not state that you lose any spellbook granted, you have one.
So what about the spellbook that is listed under equipment?
Well that is also a separate issue (which most GM's dutifully ignore).
Your spellbook is part of the spellcasting class feature, which is a separate instance from your starting equipment. Your starting equipment is not a class feature granted by multiclassing PHB errata V2.0 page 2
You don’t, however, receive the class’s starting equipment,
So what is your new spellbook that you get due to your spellcasting feature?
Your spellbook is a unique compilation of spells, with its own
decorative flourishes and margin notes. It might be a plain,
functional leather volume that you received as a gift from your
master, a finely bound gilt-edged tome you found in an ancient
library, or even a loose collection of notes scrounged together after
you lost your previous spellbook in a mishap.
Well it could be lots of things, Rubiksmoose phrases it nicely:
you can use almost anything as a spellbook even things like metal
sheets and carved rocks in a bag.
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D&D Beyond seems to follow this interpretation. Creating a character and multiclassing into wizard does not give you a spellbook equipment but still allows you to use the spellbook features character test here. This is naturally just because someone programmed it like that (perhaps even unintentionally) but I still found it interesting.
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Yes.
According to Jeremy Crawford on Twitter, the spellbook is a feature of the class, and is therefore gained upon taking a level in Wizard. How you explain it in-game is between the DM and the player to work out.
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Can you support this outside of purely JC. He gives some insight into his mind, but the tweets aren't official rules/rulings. I'd prefer answers to be focused more on the written rules.
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– NautArch
8 hours ago
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As Crawford's tweets are no longer considered official rulings, this answer will probably benefit from quoting/investigating the specific rules and how they support the conclusion in a bit more detail.
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– Carcer
8 hours ago
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Also note that sageadvice.eu is NOT Sage Advice from WoTC. It's just a guy who consolidated designer tweets.
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– NautArch
8 hours ago
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This answer can be improved by citing the PHB text for the wizard's Spellcasting feature ("you have a spellbook...")
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– MikeQ
8 hours ago
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I'm also not asking how to narrate it, just whether or not it's possible.
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Yes, you are granted a spellbook by your spellcasting.
Spellcasting (PHB 114):
As a student of arcane magic, you have a spellbook containing spells
that show the first glimmerings of your true power.
So you have a spellbook, disregarding how you got it.
Class Features (PHB 164):
When you gain a new level in a class, you get its features for that
level.
Spellcasting is a class feature that has some additonal rules tied to it.
Spellcasting (PHB 164):
Your capacity for spellcasting depends partly on your combined levels
in all your spellcasting classes and partly on your individual levels
in those classes.
As the additional rules do not state that you lose any spellbook granted, you have one.
So what about the spellbook that is listed under equipment?
Well that is also a separate issue (which most GM's dutifully ignore).
Your spellbook is part of the spellcasting class feature, which is a separate instance from your starting equipment. Your starting equipment is not a class feature granted by multiclassing PHB errata V2.0 page 2
You don’t, however, receive the class’s starting equipment,
So what is your new spellbook that you get due to your spellcasting feature?
Your spellbook is a unique compilation of spells, with its own
decorative flourishes and margin notes. It might be a plain,
functional leather volume that you received as a gift from your
master, a finely bound gilt-edged tome you found in an ancient
library, or even a loose collection of notes scrounged together after
you lost your previous spellbook in a mishap.
Well it could be lots of things, Rubiksmoose phrases it nicely:
you can use almost anything as a spellbook even things like metal
sheets and carved rocks in a bag.
$endgroup$
3
$begingroup$
D&D Beyond seems to follow this interpretation. Creating a character and multiclassing into wizard does not give you a spellbook equipment but still allows you to use the spellbook features character test here. This is naturally just because someone programmed it like that (perhaps even unintentionally) but I still found it interesting.
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
8 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Yes, you are granted a spellbook by your spellcasting.
Spellcasting (PHB 114):
As a student of arcane magic, you have a spellbook containing spells
that show the first glimmerings of your true power.
So you have a spellbook, disregarding how you got it.
Class Features (PHB 164):
When you gain a new level in a class, you get its features for that
level.
Spellcasting is a class feature that has some additonal rules tied to it.
Spellcasting (PHB 164):
Your capacity for spellcasting depends partly on your combined levels
in all your spellcasting classes and partly on your individual levels
in those classes.
As the additional rules do not state that you lose any spellbook granted, you have one.
So what about the spellbook that is listed under equipment?
Well that is also a separate issue (which most GM's dutifully ignore).
Your spellbook is part of the spellcasting class feature, which is a separate instance from your starting equipment. Your starting equipment is not a class feature granted by multiclassing PHB errata V2.0 page 2
You don’t, however, receive the class’s starting equipment,
So what is your new spellbook that you get due to your spellcasting feature?
Your spellbook is a unique compilation of spells, with its own
decorative flourishes and margin notes. It might be a plain,
functional leather volume that you received as a gift from your
master, a finely bound gilt-edged tome you found in an ancient
library, or even a loose collection of notes scrounged together after
you lost your previous spellbook in a mishap.
Well it could be lots of things, Rubiksmoose phrases it nicely:
you can use almost anything as a spellbook even things like metal
sheets and carved rocks in a bag.
$endgroup$
3
$begingroup$
D&D Beyond seems to follow this interpretation. Creating a character and multiclassing into wizard does not give you a spellbook equipment but still allows you to use the spellbook features character test here. This is naturally just because someone programmed it like that (perhaps even unintentionally) but I still found it interesting.
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
8 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Yes, you are granted a spellbook by your spellcasting.
Spellcasting (PHB 114):
As a student of arcane magic, you have a spellbook containing spells
that show the first glimmerings of your true power.
So you have a spellbook, disregarding how you got it.
Class Features (PHB 164):
When you gain a new level in a class, you get its features for that
level.
Spellcasting is a class feature that has some additonal rules tied to it.
Spellcasting (PHB 164):
Your capacity for spellcasting depends partly on your combined levels
in all your spellcasting classes and partly on your individual levels
in those classes.
As the additional rules do not state that you lose any spellbook granted, you have one.
So what about the spellbook that is listed under equipment?
Well that is also a separate issue (which most GM's dutifully ignore).
Your spellbook is part of the spellcasting class feature, which is a separate instance from your starting equipment. Your starting equipment is not a class feature granted by multiclassing PHB errata V2.0 page 2
You don’t, however, receive the class’s starting equipment,
So what is your new spellbook that you get due to your spellcasting feature?
Your spellbook is a unique compilation of spells, with its own
decorative flourishes and margin notes. It might be a plain,
functional leather volume that you received as a gift from your
master, a finely bound gilt-edged tome you found in an ancient
library, or even a loose collection of notes scrounged together after
you lost your previous spellbook in a mishap.
Well it could be lots of things, Rubiksmoose phrases it nicely:
you can use almost anything as a spellbook even things like metal
sheets and carved rocks in a bag.
$endgroup$
Yes, you are granted a spellbook by your spellcasting.
Spellcasting (PHB 114):
As a student of arcane magic, you have a spellbook containing spells
that show the first glimmerings of your true power.
So you have a spellbook, disregarding how you got it.
Class Features (PHB 164):
When you gain a new level in a class, you get its features for that
level.
Spellcasting is a class feature that has some additonal rules tied to it.
Spellcasting (PHB 164):
Your capacity for spellcasting depends partly on your combined levels
in all your spellcasting classes and partly on your individual levels
in those classes.
As the additional rules do not state that you lose any spellbook granted, you have one.
So what about the spellbook that is listed under equipment?
Well that is also a separate issue (which most GM's dutifully ignore).
Your spellbook is part of the spellcasting class feature, which is a separate instance from your starting equipment. Your starting equipment is not a class feature granted by multiclassing PHB errata V2.0 page 2
You don’t, however, receive the class’s starting equipment,
So what is your new spellbook that you get due to your spellcasting feature?
Your spellbook is a unique compilation of spells, with its own
decorative flourishes and margin notes. It might be a plain,
functional leather volume that you received as a gift from your
master, a finely bound gilt-edged tome you found in an ancient
library, or even a loose collection of notes scrounged together after
you lost your previous spellbook in a mishap.
Well it could be lots of things, Rubiksmoose phrases it nicely:
you can use almost anything as a spellbook even things like metal
sheets and carved rocks in a bag.
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D&D Beyond seems to follow this interpretation. Creating a character and multiclassing into wizard does not give you a spellbook equipment but still allows you to use the spellbook features character test here. This is naturally just because someone programmed it like that (perhaps even unintentionally) but I still found it interesting.
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
8 hours ago
add a comment |
3
$begingroup$
D&D Beyond seems to follow this interpretation. Creating a character and multiclassing into wizard does not give you a spellbook equipment but still allows you to use the spellbook features character test here. This is naturally just because someone programmed it like that (perhaps even unintentionally) but I still found it interesting.
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
8 hours ago
3
3
$begingroup$
D&D Beyond seems to follow this interpretation. Creating a character and multiclassing into wizard does not give you a spellbook equipment but still allows you to use the spellbook features character test here. This is naturally just because someone programmed it like that (perhaps even unintentionally) but I still found it interesting.
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
D&D Beyond seems to follow this interpretation. Creating a character and multiclassing into wizard does not give you a spellbook equipment but still allows you to use the spellbook features character test here. This is naturally just because someone programmed it like that (perhaps even unintentionally) but I still found it interesting.
$endgroup$
– Sdjz
8 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Yes.
According to Jeremy Crawford on Twitter, the spellbook is a feature of the class, and is therefore gained upon taking a level in Wizard. How you explain it in-game is between the DM and the player to work out.
$endgroup$
4
$begingroup$
Can you support this outside of purely JC. He gives some insight into his mind, but the tweets aren't official rules/rulings. I'd prefer answers to be focused more on the written rules.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
8 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
As Crawford's tweets are no longer considered official rulings, this answer will probably benefit from quoting/investigating the specific rules and how they support the conclusion in a bit more detail.
$endgroup$
– Carcer
8 hours ago
4
$begingroup$
Also note that sageadvice.eu is NOT Sage Advice from WoTC. It's just a guy who consolidated designer tweets.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
8 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
This answer can be improved by citing the PHB text for the wizard's Spellcasting feature ("you have a spellbook...")
$endgroup$
– MikeQ
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
I'm also not asking how to narrate it, just whether or not it's possible.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
8 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
Yes.
According to Jeremy Crawford on Twitter, the spellbook is a feature of the class, and is therefore gained upon taking a level in Wizard. How you explain it in-game is between the DM and the player to work out.
$endgroup$
4
$begingroup$
Can you support this outside of purely JC. He gives some insight into his mind, but the tweets aren't official rules/rulings. I'd prefer answers to be focused more on the written rules.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
8 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
As Crawford's tweets are no longer considered official rulings, this answer will probably benefit from quoting/investigating the specific rules and how they support the conclusion in a bit more detail.
$endgroup$
– Carcer
8 hours ago
4
$begingroup$
Also note that sageadvice.eu is NOT Sage Advice from WoTC. It's just a guy who consolidated designer tweets.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
8 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
This answer can be improved by citing the PHB text for the wizard's Spellcasting feature ("you have a spellbook...")
$endgroup$
– MikeQ
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
I'm also not asking how to narrate it, just whether or not it's possible.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
8 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
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Yes.
According to Jeremy Crawford on Twitter, the spellbook is a feature of the class, and is therefore gained upon taking a level in Wizard. How you explain it in-game is between the DM and the player to work out.
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Yes.
According to Jeremy Crawford on Twitter, the spellbook is a feature of the class, and is therefore gained upon taking a level in Wizard. How you explain it in-game is between the DM and the player to work out.
edited 8 hours ago
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Can you support this outside of purely JC. He gives some insight into his mind, but the tweets aren't official rules/rulings. I'd prefer answers to be focused more on the written rules.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
8 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
As Crawford's tweets are no longer considered official rulings, this answer will probably benefit from quoting/investigating the specific rules and how they support the conclusion in a bit more detail.
$endgroup$
– Carcer
8 hours ago
4
$begingroup$
Also note that sageadvice.eu is NOT Sage Advice from WoTC. It's just a guy who consolidated designer tweets.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
8 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
This answer can be improved by citing the PHB text for the wizard's Spellcasting feature ("you have a spellbook...")
$endgroup$
– MikeQ
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
I'm also not asking how to narrate it, just whether or not it's possible.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
8 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
4
$begingroup$
Can you support this outside of purely JC. He gives some insight into his mind, but the tweets aren't official rules/rulings. I'd prefer answers to be focused more on the written rules.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
8 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
As Crawford's tweets are no longer considered official rulings, this answer will probably benefit from quoting/investigating the specific rules and how they support the conclusion in a bit more detail.
$endgroup$
– Carcer
8 hours ago
4
$begingroup$
Also note that sageadvice.eu is NOT Sage Advice from WoTC. It's just a guy who consolidated designer tweets.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
8 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
This answer can be improved by citing the PHB text for the wizard's Spellcasting feature ("you have a spellbook...")
$endgroup$
– MikeQ
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
I'm also not asking how to narrate it, just whether or not it's possible.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
8 hours ago
4
4
$begingroup$
Can you support this outside of purely JC. He gives some insight into his mind, but the tweets aren't official rules/rulings. I'd prefer answers to be focused more on the written rules.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
Can you support this outside of purely JC. He gives some insight into his mind, but the tweets aren't official rules/rulings. I'd prefer answers to be focused more on the written rules.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
8 hours ago
2
2
$begingroup$
As Crawford's tweets are no longer considered official rulings, this answer will probably benefit from quoting/investigating the specific rules and how they support the conclusion in a bit more detail.
$endgroup$
– Carcer
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
As Crawford's tweets are no longer considered official rulings, this answer will probably benefit from quoting/investigating the specific rules and how they support the conclusion in a bit more detail.
$endgroup$
– Carcer
8 hours ago
4
4
$begingroup$
Also note that sageadvice.eu is NOT Sage Advice from WoTC. It's just a guy who consolidated designer tweets.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
Also note that sageadvice.eu is NOT Sage Advice from WoTC. It's just a guy who consolidated designer tweets.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
8 hours ago
1
1
$begingroup$
This answer can be improved by citing the PHB text for the wizard's Spellcasting feature ("you have a spellbook...")
$endgroup$
– MikeQ
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
This answer can be improved by citing the PHB text for the wizard's Spellcasting feature ("you have a spellbook...")
$endgroup$
– MikeQ
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
I'm also not asking how to narrate it, just whether or not it's possible.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
I'm also not asking how to narrate it, just whether or not it's possible.
$endgroup$
– NautArch
8 hours ago
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