How to remove ambiguity: “… lives in the city of H, the capital of the province of NS, WHERE the...

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How to remove ambiguity: “… lives in the city of H, the capital of the province of NS, WHERE the unemployment rate is …”?


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The sentence here is quite confusing. I wrote this.




Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of the province of Nova Scotia, where the unemployment rate is 5 percent.




A fellow reader is confused: Is the writer talking about the unemployment rate of Halifax or Nova Scotia?



I want to say the rate in Halifax is 5 percent. How do I establish clarity without breaking the sentence in two and repeating "Halifax"?










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  • @MichaelHarvey This seems like a good alternative. However, a person who doesn't know these names may misinterpret it as city, province, country: ... lives in the capital city of Nova Scotia, Canada.

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  • @MichaelHarvey don't answer in comments. I think that the ambiguity still remains in your rephrased sentence.

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The sentence here is quite confusing. I wrote this.




Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of the province of Nova Scotia, where the unemployment rate is 5 percent.




A fellow reader is confused: Is the writer talking about the unemployment rate of Halifax or Nova Scotia?



I want to say the rate in Halifax is 5 percent. How do I establish clarity without breaking the sentence in two and repeating "Halifax"?










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  • @MichaelHarvey This seems like a good alternative. However, a person who doesn't know these names may misinterpret it as city, province, country: ... lives in the capital city of Nova Scotia, Canada.

    – AIQ
    8 hours ago













  • @MichaelHarvey don't answer in comments. I think that the ambiguity still remains in your rephrased sentence.

    – James K
    8 hours ago














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The sentence here is quite confusing. I wrote this.




Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of the province of Nova Scotia, where the unemployment rate is 5 percent.




A fellow reader is confused: Is the writer talking about the unemployment rate of Halifax or Nova Scotia?



I want to say the rate in Halifax is 5 percent. How do I establish clarity without breaking the sentence in two and repeating "Halifax"?










share|improve this question
















The sentence here is quite confusing. I wrote this.




Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of the province of Nova Scotia, where the unemployment rate is 5 percent.




A fellow reader is confused: Is the writer talking about the unemployment rate of Halifax or Nova Scotia?



I want to say the rate in Halifax is 5 percent. How do I establish clarity without breaking the sentence in two and repeating "Halifax"?







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  • @MichaelHarvey This seems like a good alternative. However, a person who doesn't know these names may misinterpret it as city, province, country: ... lives in the capital city of Nova Scotia, Canada.

    – AIQ
    8 hours ago













  • @MichaelHarvey don't answer in comments. I think that the ambiguity still remains in your rephrased sentence.

    – James K
    8 hours ago



















  • @MichaelHarvey This seems like a good alternative. However, a person who doesn't know these names may misinterpret it as city, province, country: ... lives in the capital city of Nova Scotia, Canada.

    – AIQ
    8 hours ago













  • @MichaelHarvey don't answer in comments. I think that the ambiguity still remains in your rephrased sentence.

    – James K
    8 hours ago

















@MichaelHarvey This seems like a good alternative. However, a person who doesn't know these names may misinterpret it as city, province, country: ... lives in the capital city of Nova Scotia, Canada.

– AIQ
8 hours ago







@MichaelHarvey This seems like a good alternative. However, a person who doesn't know these names may misinterpret it as city, province, country: ... lives in the capital city of Nova Scotia, Canada.

– AIQ
8 hours ago















@MichaelHarvey don't answer in comments. I think that the ambiguity still remains in your rephrased sentence.

– James K
8 hours ago





@MichaelHarvey don't answer in comments. I think that the ambiguity still remains in your rephrased sentence.

– James K
8 hours ago










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Halifax has an unemployment rate of 5%.



Although the original sentence could be parsed as using parenthetical commas, it could also be parsed as having each comma functioning to have what comes after it modifying what comes before it.



To make it clear that it's actually parenthetical information, use actual parentheses:





  1. Jessica lives in the city of Halifax (the capital of the province of Nova Scotia) where the unemployment rate is 5 percent.




Here, there is no way of misinterpreting the fact that it's Halifax with the unemployment rate.





Nova Scotia has an unemployment rate of 5%.



On the other hand, if you wanted to say that it's Nova Scotia with the unemployment rate, remove the second comma and, thereby, any indication of parenthetical information. Also, rephrase the sentence slightly:





  1. Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of Nova Scotia where the provincial unemployment rate is 5 percent.




Now, without the second comma, everything after the first comma modifies what came before it. Also, by writing provincial unemployment rate, it's impossible to mistake it as referring to Halifax. The use of provincial also makes it clear that Nova Scotia is a province.






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    The ambiguity arises because you have one sentence doing three jobs. It is telling us which city Jessica lives in, where that city is, and what the unemployment rate is. The simple fix is to split the sentence, repeating "Halifax"




    Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of the province of Nova Scotia. In Halifax, the unemployment rate is five percent.



    Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, where the unemployment rate is five percent. (do you need to say that Halifax is in Nova Scotia?)




    Another way is to indicate a context in other sentences:




    Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of the province of Nova Scotia, where the unemployment rate is five percent. This compares well with other Canadian cities. In Ontario, the rate is ten percent. However in the rest of Nova Scotia the unemployment rate is only two percent...







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    • I actually wanted a sentence that is a bit heavy on the details but not compromising the clarity. Breaking them up kind of feels like I don't know how to write at the level I am writing for (which is actually true).

      – AIQ
      8 hours ago













    • Then consider my last option: providing sufficient context for the reader to deduce that you are talking about cities

      – James K
      8 hours ago













    • @AIQ. One of the commonest mistakes that native English speakers make, is to make their sentences too long. In "Mind the Stop" G.V. Carey says that the full stop is unlike every other punctuation mark, in that writing is usually improved by adding more of them.

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    I think the simple answer is, Don't be afraid to break up the sentence.



    I'd write, "Jessica lives in Halifax, the capital of Nova Scotia. The unemployment rate in Halifax is 5%."



    We have a fair number of questions on this site about "how do I eliminate the ambiguity without adding more words". Very often the answer is, "There is no other way. You have to add more words."






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      Deemphasis on the city being the capital: Jessica lives in the City of Halifax, Nova Scotia (the Capital of the Province) where city unemployment rate is 5 percent.



      Emphasis on the city being the capital: Jessica lives in the City of Halifax, Nova Scotia - the Capital of the Province - where city unemployment rate is 5 percent.






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        Use of parentheses will easily clarify this:




        Jessica lives in the city of Halifax (capital of the province of Nova Scotia), where the unemployment rate is 5 percent.




        The focus, and hence the unemployment rate, remains with Halifax.






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          Halifax has an unemployment rate of 5%.



          Although the original sentence could be parsed as using parenthetical commas, it could also be parsed as having each comma functioning to have what comes after it modifying what comes before it.



          To make it clear that it's actually parenthetical information, use actual parentheses:





          1. Jessica lives in the city of Halifax (the capital of the province of Nova Scotia) where the unemployment rate is 5 percent.




          Here, there is no way of misinterpreting the fact that it's Halifax with the unemployment rate.





          Nova Scotia has an unemployment rate of 5%.



          On the other hand, if you wanted to say that it's Nova Scotia with the unemployment rate, remove the second comma and, thereby, any indication of parenthetical information. Also, rephrase the sentence slightly:





          1. Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of Nova Scotia where the provincial unemployment rate is 5 percent.




          Now, without the second comma, everything after the first comma modifies what came before it. Also, by writing provincial unemployment rate, it's impossible to mistake it as referring to Halifax. The use of provincial also makes it clear that Nova Scotia is a province.






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            Halifax has an unemployment rate of 5%.



            Although the original sentence could be parsed as using parenthetical commas, it could also be parsed as having each comma functioning to have what comes after it modifying what comes before it.



            To make it clear that it's actually parenthetical information, use actual parentheses:





            1. Jessica lives in the city of Halifax (the capital of the province of Nova Scotia) where the unemployment rate is 5 percent.




            Here, there is no way of misinterpreting the fact that it's Halifax with the unemployment rate.





            Nova Scotia has an unemployment rate of 5%.



            On the other hand, if you wanted to say that it's Nova Scotia with the unemployment rate, remove the second comma and, thereby, any indication of parenthetical information. Also, rephrase the sentence slightly:





            1. Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of Nova Scotia where the provincial unemployment rate is 5 percent.




            Now, without the second comma, everything after the first comma modifies what came before it. Also, by writing provincial unemployment rate, it's impossible to mistake it as referring to Halifax. The use of provincial also makes it clear that Nova Scotia is a province.






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              Halifax has an unemployment rate of 5%.



              Although the original sentence could be parsed as using parenthetical commas, it could also be parsed as having each comma functioning to have what comes after it modifying what comes before it.



              To make it clear that it's actually parenthetical information, use actual parentheses:





              1. Jessica lives in the city of Halifax (the capital of the province of Nova Scotia) where the unemployment rate is 5 percent.




              Here, there is no way of misinterpreting the fact that it's Halifax with the unemployment rate.





              Nova Scotia has an unemployment rate of 5%.



              On the other hand, if you wanted to say that it's Nova Scotia with the unemployment rate, remove the second comma and, thereby, any indication of parenthetical information. Also, rephrase the sentence slightly:





              1. Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of Nova Scotia where the provincial unemployment rate is 5 percent.




              Now, without the second comma, everything after the first comma modifies what came before it. Also, by writing provincial unemployment rate, it's impossible to mistake it as referring to Halifax. The use of provincial also makes it clear that Nova Scotia is a province.






              share|improve this answer















              Halifax has an unemployment rate of 5%.



              Although the original sentence could be parsed as using parenthetical commas, it could also be parsed as having each comma functioning to have what comes after it modifying what comes before it.



              To make it clear that it's actually parenthetical information, use actual parentheses:





              1. Jessica lives in the city of Halifax (the capital of the province of Nova Scotia) where the unemployment rate is 5 percent.




              Here, there is no way of misinterpreting the fact that it's Halifax with the unemployment rate.





              Nova Scotia has an unemployment rate of 5%.



              On the other hand, if you wanted to say that it's Nova Scotia with the unemployment rate, remove the second comma and, thereby, any indication of parenthetical information. Also, rephrase the sentence slightly:





              1. Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of Nova Scotia where the provincial unemployment rate is 5 percent.




              Now, without the second comma, everything after the first comma modifies what came before it. Also, by writing provincial unemployment rate, it's impossible to mistake it as referring to Halifax. The use of provincial also makes it clear that Nova Scotia is a province.







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                  The ambiguity arises because you have one sentence doing three jobs. It is telling us which city Jessica lives in, where that city is, and what the unemployment rate is. The simple fix is to split the sentence, repeating "Halifax"




                  Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of the province of Nova Scotia. In Halifax, the unemployment rate is five percent.



                  Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, where the unemployment rate is five percent. (do you need to say that Halifax is in Nova Scotia?)




                  Another way is to indicate a context in other sentences:




                  Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of the province of Nova Scotia, where the unemployment rate is five percent. This compares well with other Canadian cities. In Ontario, the rate is ten percent. However in the rest of Nova Scotia the unemployment rate is only two percent...







                  share|improve this answer




























                  • I actually wanted a sentence that is a bit heavy on the details but not compromising the clarity. Breaking them up kind of feels like I don't know how to write at the level I am writing for (which is actually true).

                    – AIQ
                    8 hours ago













                  • Then consider my last option: providing sufficient context for the reader to deduce that you are talking about cities

                    – James K
                    8 hours ago













                  • @AIQ. One of the commonest mistakes that native English speakers make, is to make their sentences too long. In "Mind the Stop" G.V. Carey says that the full stop is unlike every other punctuation mark, in that writing is usually improved by adding more of them.

                    – Martin Bonner
                    51 mins ago
















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                  The ambiguity arises because you have one sentence doing three jobs. It is telling us which city Jessica lives in, where that city is, and what the unemployment rate is. The simple fix is to split the sentence, repeating "Halifax"




                  Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of the province of Nova Scotia. In Halifax, the unemployment rate is five percent.



                  Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, where the unemployment rate is five percent. (do you need to say that Halifax is in Nova Scotia?)




                  Another way is to indicate a context in other sentences:




                  Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of the province of Nova Scotia, where the unemployment rate is five percent. This compares well with other Canadian cities. In Ontario, the rate is ten percent. However in the rest of Nova Scotia the unemployment rate is only two percent...







                  share|improve this answer




























                  • I actually wanted a sentence that is a bit heavy on the details but not compromising the clarity. Breaking them up kind of feels like I don't know how to write at the level I am writing for (which is actually true).

                    – AIQ
                    8 hours ago













                  • Then consider my last option: providing sufficient context for the reader to deduce that you are talking about cities

                    – James K
                    8 hours ago













                  • @AIQ. One of the commonest mistakes that native English speakers make, is to make their sentences too long. In "Mind the Stop" G.V. Carey says that the full stop is unlike every other punctuation mark, in that writing is usually improved by adding more of them.

                    – Martin Bonner
                    51 mins ago














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                  The ambiguity arises because you have one sentence doing three jobs. It is telling us which city Jessica lives in, where that city is, and what the unemployment rate is. The simple fix is to split the sentence, repeating "Halifax"




                  Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of the province of Nova Scotia. In Halifax, the unemployment rate is five percent.



                  Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, where the unemployment rate is five percent. (do you need to say that Halifax is in Nova Scotia?)




                  Another way is to indicate a context in other sentences:




                  Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of the province of Nova Scotia, where the unemployment rate is five percent. This compares well with other Canadian cities. In Ontario, the rate is ten percent. However in the rest of Nova Scotia the unemployment rate is only two percent...







                  share|improve this answer















                  The ambiguity arises because you have one sentence doing three jobs. It is telling us which city Jessica lives in, where that city is, and what the unemployment rate is. The simple fix is to split the sentence, repeating "Halifax"




                  Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of the province of Nova Scotia. In Halifax, the unemployment rate is five percent.



                  Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, where the unemployment rate is five percent. (do you need to say that Halifax is in Nova Scotia?)




                  Another way is to indicate a context in other sentences:




                  Jessica lives in the city of Halifax, the capital of the province of Nova Scotia, where the unemployment rate is five percent. This compares well with other Canadian cities. In Ontario, the rate is ten percent. However in the rest of Nova Scotia the unemployment rate is only two percent...








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                  • I actually wanted a sentence that is a bit heavy on the details but not compromising the clarity. Breaking them up kind of feels like I don't know how to write at the level I am writing for (which is actually true).

                    – AIQ
                    8 hours ago













                  • Then consider my last option: providing sufficient context for the reader to deduce that you are talking about cities

                    – James K
                    8 hours ago













                  • @AIQ. One of the commonest mistakes that native English speakers make, is to make their sentences too long. In "Mind the Stop" G.V. Carey says that the full stop is unlike every other punctuation mark, in that writing is usually improved by adding more of them.

                    – Martin Bonner
                    51 mins ago



















                  • I actually wanted a sentence that is a bit heavy on the details but not compromising the clarity. Breaking them up kind of feels like I don't know how to write at the level I am writing for (which is actually true).

                    – AIQ
                    8 hours ago













                  • Then consider my last option: providing sufficient context for the reader to deduce that you are talking about cities

                    – James K
                    8 hours ago













                  • @AIQ. One of the commonest mistakes that native English speakers make, is to make their sentences too long. In "Mind the Stop" G.V. Carey says that the full stop is unlike every other punctuation mark, in that writing is usually improved by adding more of them.

                    – Martin Bonner
                    51 mins ago

















                  I actually wanted a sentence that is a bit heavy on the details but not compromising the clarity. Breaking them up kind of feels like I don't know how to write at the level I am writing for (which is actually true).

                  – AIQ
                  8 hours ago







                  I actually wanted a sentence that is a bit heavy on the details but not compromising the clarity. Breaking them up kind of feels like I don't know how to write at the level I am writing for (which is actually true).

                  – AIQ
                  8 hours ago















                  Then consider my last option: providing sufficient context for the reader to deduce that you are talking about cities

                  – James K
                  8 hours ago







                  Then consider my last option: providing sufficient context for the reader to deduce that you are talking about cities

                  – James K
                  8 hours ago















                  @AIQ. One of the commonest mistakes that native English speakers make, is to make their sentences too long. In "Mind the Stop" G.V. Carey says that the full stop is unlike every other punctuation mark, in that writing is usually improved by adding more of them.

                  – Martin Bonner
                  51 mins ago





                  @AIQ. One of the commonest mistakes that native English speakers make, is to make their sentences too long. In "Mind the Stop" G.V. Carey says that the full stop is unlike every other punctuation mark, in that writing is usually improved by adding more of them.

                  – Martin Bonner
                  51 mins ago











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                  I think the simple answer is, Don't be afraid to break up the sentence.



                  I'd write, "Jessica lives in Halifax, the capital of Nova Scotia. The unemployment rate in Halifax is 5%."



                  We have a fair number of questions on this site about "how do I eliminate the ambiguity without adding more words". Very often the answer is, "There is no other way. You have to add more words."






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                    I think the simple answer is, Don't be afraid to break up the sentence.



                    I'd write, "Jessica lives in Halifax, the capital of Nova Scotia. The unemployment rate in Halifax is 5%."



                    We have a fair number of questions on this site about "how do I eliminate the ambiguity without adding more words". Very often the answer is, "There is no other way. You have to add more words."






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                      I think the simple answer is, Don't be afraid to break up the sentence.



                      I'd write, "Jessica lives in Halifax, the capital of Nova Scotia. The unemployment rate in Halifax is 5%."



                      We have a fair number of questions on this site about "how do I eliminate the ambiguity without adding more words". Very often the answer is, "There is no other way. You have to add more words."






                      share|improve this answer













                      I think the simple answer is, Don't be afraid to break up the sentence.



                      I'd write, "Jessica lives in Halifax, the capital of Nova Scotia. The unemployment rate in Halifax is 5%."



                      We have a fair number of questions on this site about "how do I eliminate the ambiguity without adding more words". Very often the answer is, "There is no other way. You have to add more words."







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                          Deemphasis on the city being the capital: Jessica lives in the City of Halifax, Nova Scotia (the Capital of the Province) where city unemployment rate is 5 percent.



                          Emphasis on the city being the capital: Jessica lives in the City of Halifax, Nova Scotia - the Capital of the Province - where city unemployment rate is 5 percent.






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                            Deemphasis on the city being the capital: Jessica lives in the City of Halifax, Nova Scotia (the Capital of the Province) where city unemployment rate is 5 percent.



                            Emphasis on the city being the capital: Jessica lives in the City of Halifax, Nova Scotia - the Capital of the Province - where city unemployment rate is 5 percent.






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                              Deemphasis on the city being the capital: Jessica lives in the City of Halifax, Nova Scotia (the Capital of the Province) where city unemployment rate is 5 percent.



                              Emphasis on the city being the capital: Jessica lives in the City of Halifax, Nova Scotia - the Capital of the Province - where city unemployment rate is 5 percent.






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                              Deemphasis on the city being the capital: Jessica lives in the City of Halifax, Nova Scotia (the Capital of the Province) where city unemployment rate is 5 percent.



                              Emphasis on the city being the capital: Jessica lives in the City of Halifax, Nova Scotia - the Capital of the Province - where city unemployment rate is 5 percent.







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                                  Use of parentheses will easily clarify this:




                                  Jessica lives in the city of Halifax (capital of the province of Nova Scotia), where the unemployment rate is 5 percent.




                                  The focus, and hence the unemployment rate, remains with Halifax.






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                                    Use of parentheses will easily clarify this:




                                    Jessica lives in the city of Halifax (capital of the province of Nova Scotia), where the unemployment rate is 5 percent.




                                    The focus, and hence the unemployment rate, remains with Halifax.






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                                      Use of parentheses will easily clarify this:




                                      Jessica lives in the city of Halifax (capital of the province of Nova Scotia), where the unemployment rate is 5 percent.




                                      The focus, and hence the unemployment rate, remains with Halifax.






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                                      Jessica lives in the city of Halifax (capital of the province of Nova Scotia), where the unemployment rate is 5 percent.




                                      The focus, and hence the unemployment rate, remains with Halifax.







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