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I cycle to work every day, it's my only method of transportation. Public transit doesn't serve the commute path and I don't own a car. A coworker was recently in a bike accident and was out for 2 days, and my manager reacted by getting upset that work wasn't getting done, and now he's sent out an email to everyone saying that we're no longer allowed to bike into work because he can't risk us getting injured again. What should I do about this? Please note that my manager is in general incredibly unreasonable and loves to say no or take things away just to feel like he's in charge, so I don't think he'll listen to reason on this.



Should I just keep biking in and see what he does about it, or start spending $20/day on Ubers to commute?



If you're going to suggest finding another job, that's a great idea, but without also suggesting what to do in the meantime it's unhelpful.



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    next email: No skydiving on the weekends. No skiing. Some of you need to lose weight. But not by cycling :-)

    – Kate Gregory
    9 hours ago






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    Did he propose any alternative and if yes did he propose to cover the costs of it? Else, and although I'm not knowledgeable about US laws, I'm quite sure he doesn't have a say on your transportation at all. Having a bus factor of 1 is the real issue, not the way people commute; Anybody could die from a minute to another anyway, and i'm quite sure he can't forbid you to die...

    – Laurent S.
    9 hours ago






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    What is your boss going to do to people who cycle in? What if a colleague is involved in a car/bus crash? Or a train derailment? Or is walking and gets hit by a vehicle or falls due to sidewalk conditions? Even if you take a ride share or taxi, you're not immune to accidents and injury on your commute, yet would be facing an increased cost.

    – Thomas Owens
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  • @isaace In many cities you would not return to your bike, so much as an empty space where your bike used to be - regardless of how many locks one used. This varies by city and neighborhood, of course. :)

    – BrianH
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  • What about forwarding the e-mail to HR?

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I cycle to work every day, it's my only method of transportation. Public transit doesn't serve the commute path and I don't own a car. A coworker was recently in a bike accident and was out for 2 days, and my manager reacted by getting upset that work wasn't getting done, and now he's sent out an email to everyone saying that we're no longer allowed to bike into work because he can't risk us getting injured again. What should I do about this? Please note that my manager is in general incredibly unreasonable and loves to say no or take things away just to feel like he's in charge, so I don't think he'll listen to reason on this.



Should I just keep biking in and see what he does about it, or start spending $20/day on Ubers to commute?



If you're going to suggest finding another job, that's a great idea, but without also suggesting what to do in the meantime it's unhelpful.



Country is USA.










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    next email: No skydiving on the weekends. No skiing. Some of you need to lose weight. But not by cycling :-)

    – Kate Gregory
    9 hours ago






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    Did he propose any alternative and if yes did he propose to cover the costs of it? Else, and although I'm not knowledgeable about US laws, I'm quite sure he doesn't have a say on your transportation at all. Having a bus factor of 1 is the real issue, not the way people commute; Anybody could die from a minute to another anyway, and i'm quite sure he can't forbid you to die...

    – Laurent S.
    9 hours ago






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    What is your boss going to do to people who cycle in? What if a colleague is involved in a car/bus crash? Or a train derailment? Or is walking and gets hit by a vehicle or falls due to sidewalk conditions? Even if you take a ride share or taxi, you're not immune to accidents and injury on your commute, yet would be facing an increased cost.

    – Thomas Owens
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  • @isaace In many cities you would not return to your bike, so much as an empty space where your bike used to be - regardless of how many locks one used. This varies by city and neighborhood, of course. :)

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  • What about forwarding the e-mail to HR?

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I cycle to work every day, it's my only method of transportation. Public transit doesn't serve the commute path and I don't own a car. A coworker was recently in a bike accident and was out for 2 days, and my manager reacted by getting upset that work wasn't getting done, and now he's sent out an email to everyone saying that we're no longer allowed to bike into work because he can't risk us getting injured again. What should I do about this? Please note that my manager is in general incredibly unreasonable and loves to say no or take things away just to feel like he's in charge, so I don't think he'll listen to reason on this.



Should I just keep biking in and see what he does about it, or start spending $20/day on Ubers to commute?



If you're going to suggest finding another job, that's a great idea, but without also suggesting what to do in the meantime it's unhelpful.



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I cycle to work every day, it's my only method of transportation. Public transit doesn't serve the commute path and I don't own a car. A coworker was recently in a bike accident and was out for 2 days, and my manager reacted by getting upset that work wasn't getting done, and now he's sent out an email to everyone saying that we're no longer allowed to bike into work because he can't risk us getting injured again. What should I do about this? Please note that my manager is in general incredibly unreasonable and loves to say no or take things away just to feel like he's in charge, so I don't think he'll listen to reason on this.



Should I just keep biking in and see what he does about it, or start spending $20/day on Ubers to commute?



If you're going to suggest finding another job, that's a great idea, but without also suggesting what to do in the meantime it's unhelpful.



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    next email: No skydiving on the weekends. No skiing. Some of you need to lose weight. But not by cycling :-)

    – Kate Gregory
    9 hours ago






  • 5





    Did he propose any alternative and if yes did he propose to cover the costs of it? Else, and although I'm not knowledgeable about US laws, I'm quite sure he doesn't have a say on your transportation at all. Having a bus factor of 1 is the real issue, not the way people commute; Anybody could die from a minute to another anyway, and i'm quite sure he can't forbid you to die...

    – Laurent S.
    9 hours ago






  • 5





    What is your boss going to do to people who cycle in? What if a colleague is involved in a car/bus crash? Or a train derailment? Or is walking and gets hit by a vehicle or falls due to sidewalk conditions? Even if you take a ride share or taxi, you're not immune to accidents and injury on your commute, yet would be facing an increased cost.

    – Thomas Owens
    9 hours ago











  • @isaace In many cities you would not return to your bike, so much as an empty space where your bike used to be - regardless of how many locks one used. This varies by city and neighborhood, of course. :)

    – BrianH
    8 hours ago











  • What about forwarding the e-mail to HR?

    – Martin York
    6 hours ago














  • 16





    next email: No skydiving on the weekends. No skiing. Some of you need to lose weight. But not by cycling :-)

    – Kate Gregory
    9 hours ago






  • 5





    Did he propose any alternative and if yes did he propose to cover the costs of it? Else, and although I'm not knowledgeable about US laws, I'm quite sure he doesn't have a say on your transportation at all. Having a bus factor of 1 is the real issue, not the way people commute; Anybody could die from a minute to another anyway, and i'm quite sure he can't forbid you to die...

    – Laurent S.
    9 hours ago






  • 5





    What is your boss going to do to people who cycle in? What if a colleague is involved in a car/bus crash? Or a train derailment? Or is walking and gets hit by a vehicle or falls due to sidewalk conditions? Even if you take a ride share or taxi, you're not immune to accidents and injury on your commute, yet would be facing an increased cost.

    – Thomas Owens
    9 hours ago











  • @isaace In many cities you would not return to your bike, so much as an empty space where your bike used to be - regardless of how many locks one used. This varies by city and neighborhood, of course. :)

    – BrianH
    8 hours ago











  • What about forwarding the e-mail to HR?

    – Martin York
    6 hours ago








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next email: No skydiving on the weekends. No skiing. Some of you need to lose weight. But not by cycling :-)

– Kate Gregory
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next email: No skydiving on the weekends. No skiing. Some of you need to lose weight. But not by cycling :-)

– Kate Gregory
9 hours ago




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Did he propose any alternative and if yes did he propose to cover the costs of it? Else, and although I'm not knowledgeable about US laws, I'm quite sure he doesn't have a say on your transportation at all. Having a bus factor of 1 is the real issue, not the way people commute; Anybody could die from a minute to another anyway, and i'm quite sure he can't forbid you to die...

– Laurent S.
9 hours ago





Did he propose any alternative and if yes did he propose to cover the costs of it? Else, and although I'm not knowledgeable about US laws, I'm quite sure he doesn't have a say on your transportation at all. Having a bus factor of 1 is the real issue, not the way people commute; Anybody could die from a minute to another anyway, and i'm quite sure he can't forbid you to die...

– Laurent S.
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What is your boss going to do to people who cycle in? What if a colleague is involved in a car/bus crash? Or a train derailment? Or is walking and gets hit by a vehicle or falls due to sidewalk conditions? Even if you take a ride share or taxi, you're not immune to accidents and injury on your commute, yet would be facing an increased cost.

– Thomas Owens
9 hours ago





What is your boss going to do to people who cycle in? What if a colleague is involved in a car/bus crash? Or a train derailment? Or is walking and gets hit by a vehicle or falls due to sidewalk conditions? Even if you take a ride share or taxi, you're not immune to accidents and injury on your commute, yet would be facing an increased cost.

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@isaace In many cities you would not return to your bike, so much as an empty space where your bike used to be - regardless of how many locks one used. This varies by city and neighborhood, of course. :)

– BrianH
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@isaace In many cities you would not return to your bike, so much as an empty space where your bike used to be - regardless of how many locks one used. This varies by city and neighborhood, of course. :)

– BrianH
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What about forwarding the e-mail to HR?

– Martin York
6 hours ago





What about forwarding the e-mail to HR?

– Martin York
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So... you're in an ugly situation. Your boss is reaching out to control parts of your life that are not his to dictate, and is apparently of the unreasonable and domineering type who will react very poorly indeed to any pushback. As for what to do about it (while you look for another job), it looks like you have three options.




  • You could keep biking in to work. If you're going to do that, you're going to have to assume that he will eventually notice. It leaves signs after all (additional sweat, loose lips, actually seeing you biking, and so forth). The question is what he's likely to do in response to this obvious opposition to his authority once he discovers it. Is he likely to fire you? Is he likely to yell at you? How bad is it likely to be? Are you willing to set yourself up for that happening? Assume that, whatever it is, it will happen eventually, and ask yourself if it's worth that experience.


  • You could make small amounts of pushback. Go to your boss, let him know that the only way you have to get to work is the bike, and that if he wants you to use Uber instead, you're going to need $20/day in expenses for it. Presenting it as "implementing this command will bear this cost" rather than "No, I won't do it" is likely going to be easier for him to swallow. Whether or not this is a good idea depends entirely on how you think he'd react to this, much lesser, level of pushback.


  • Finally, if your boss has enough threat over you to prevent even that, and is unreasonable enough to wield it indiscriminately to get what he wants without consideration of your needs, you can start paying tor Uber yourself. You should understand, though, that by doing that your'e essentially accepting that your boss can make unreasonable demands of you (this is an unreasonable demand) and insist that you pay for them out of your own pocket and that, to at least some degree, you'll do it. That brings this into the realm of "unhealthy relationships", and means that, if at all possible, you need to get out soon, before it starts bending you psychologically in unhealthy ways.







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    Love this answer. The rest seem to focus on whether the manager is right (which he's not) but this one goes into what happens if a manager has a problem with you, regardless of who's right.

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    Would add the alternative suggestion to boss, that OP can also walk,but then will arrive half an hour later and leave earlier. If boss says, OP's private life and how he gets to work should not affect his work life, the natural recourse is that vice versa work life should not affect private life and boss should take back his overbearing into OP's private sphere. If he wants to have control over his commute, it's obviously part of the work life, counts as work time and expenses are on the boss. (Feel free to add that line of argument, if you wish, or not^^)

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  • "Loose lips"? Where I am from, that phrase means sharing privileged information with unprivileged parties. What do you mean?

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    @bishop I think this is what Ben is referring to - i.e. that someone at work will say something to someone else about the OP biking in and that it will ultimately get back to the boss.

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  • @motosubatsu Ah, ok, yes: thank you. I understand the context now.

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Your manager can't dictate the mode of transport that you use for commuting.



If he is as much concerned about the safety of employees while commuting, and insists on using (or avoiding) a particular mode of transport, either:




  • ask them to get you reimbursed for the viable mode by the company,


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  • provide a company operated safer mode of transportation.






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  • The argument really ends after the first line. There is no point in asking for reimbursement or safer mode of transportation.

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    @anal It's not as much about getting reimbursed, but to make an argument if the manager is insistent.

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    I guess what a manager can and cannot dictate in a country with a good chance that the manager can fire literally "at will" is open to discussion.

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    @nvoigt The manager might want to avoid actually firing anyone though, because if an employee being gone for 2 days is a problem for him, an employee being gone forever will be a bigger problem.

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Unless you're working with an employment contract that allows your employer to dictate your travel behaviors (rare, but not inherently illegal or unheard of) it's quite obviously none of their business how you arrive at work.



Given you said this,




If you're going to suggest finding another job, that's a great idea, but without also suggesting what to do in the meantime it's unhelpful.




it seems that you're willing (or already planning) to switch employers because you find your boss unreasonable. In that situation, I generally adopt an approach of "do what makes sense to me, and is defensible." In your situation, this would mean,




  • be able to show that I'm arriving at work by the agreed-upon time, regardless of my commute method

  • be able to show that bike commuting doesn't impact your work performance or ability to comply with reasonable requirements (i.e. you're not arriving sweaty and taking work time to change clothes. And, you're able to wear required dress code, or whatever)

  • know company policy and law about sick leave (effectively, your employer can't take action based on you being sick or injured)

  • arm yourself with information on the benefits of bike commuting, even if you expect your boss won't be receptive.


And then, keep biking to work and hope for the best when an inevitable conflict happens. If you search workplace.SE for the word unreasonable you'll get plenty of suggestions.






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  • I would sure emphasize the "know company policy" point. I wouldn't put it past boss to try to deny benefits if you are injured while cycling.

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  • Doing so in any significant way would lead to a easy win in court. Company sick time (and possible state sick time laws) and disability laws aside, FMLA protects your job while allowing for up to 12 weeks off. FMLA cases are generally the easiest employment cases for the employee to win.

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Should I just keep biking in and see what he does about it, or start spending $20/day on Ubers to commute?




Continue to use your preferred mode of transportation to go to work and don't worry about your manager's foolish request. If your manager attempts to discipline you in any way, I would escalate to HR or anyone higher up in the chain of your company. In the meantime you should brush up your resume and look for a new company to work for.






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  • Agreed the boss is wrong, but do we know it's illegal? It seems like the law wouldn't support the bosses' assertion but may not really protect against it. Employers can discriminate, for example, on virtually anything except for specific stated characteristics such as race, ethnicity, gender, age, pregnancy, marital status, etc. Mode of transportation isn't a protected class.

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    @JohnSpiegel An employer can require their employees to use a company provided form of transportation, but this would be something written into their contracts which the OP has not indicated is the case so I have edited the answer removing the illegal aspect as it is unclear.

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    Well, the company provided form of transportation is normally a totally reasonable thing. Like taking the companies shuttle helicopter to the offshore drilling rig instead of arriving at random intervals with your own private helicopter or kayaking in on Fridays. I have never heard of an employer requiring a type of transportation for a normal, reachable-by-individual-means jobsite.

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Have you actually met with your boss or sent him an email regarding this subject?




Boss, Last week you mentioned workers are no longer allowed to commute to work by bicycle. I want clarification of this rule as this is my primary mode of transportation. Thank you.




As far as I can tell though, there isn't anyway he can tell you what sort of activities you engage in. Now while that isn't lawful, that doesn't stop your boss from firing you if you are a at-will worker. So you'll want clarification from him for sure and make sure he knows it is your only method of transportation.






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    Your boss does not get to make decisions for you outside the office.
    He doesn't choose your dinner, shampoo, entertainment, hobbies. So why would he get to decide your mode of transport.



    He may be able to keep you from parking your bike on company property. So perhaps lock you bike up off campus but in a safe and secure manor.






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      Thinking out loud here.



      What someone was driving to work and was in an accident? Ban driving to work?



      What if your Uber driver was in an accident, you were injured and missed work? Ban Uber?



      What if you lived close enough to work to walk, twisted an ankle and missed work? Ban walking?



      Is he purchasing bubble-wrap?



      What about company apartments within walking distance?





      His demand is silly. That's in the hypothetical 'what-ifs'. If (s)he can't manage the team if someone is out unexpectedly for several days then they don't have any business being a manager. S**t happens.






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        What action do you suggest the OP take?

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        I think it's pretty clear that the demand is silly. The question is, what should the OP do?

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      In any employer-employee relation, there are benefits and disadvantages for employer and employee. For the employee what counts is salary, cost involved (for example for transport), being away from home, enjoying or hating the work or being with your colleagues and managers.



      If you find a position that benefits you more, you switch jobs (although switching has disadvantages by itself).



      Your boss just changed the equation. He wants to inflict cost of $20 per day on you. Lots of jobs that did not look better than your current job now do. There are bosses that are so full of themselves that they don’t get a simple fact like that. So first this is something you have to explain to your boss.



      But I’m not quite sure about you using “boss” in some places and “manager” in other places. If he is just a manager, then the easiest is to go to HR or payroll and ask them how to go about getting your cost for Uber refunded. Most likely they will ask why you think you should get that cost refunded when you could just cycle to work, and then you say what your manager demands, and that is likely when something hits the fan.






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        So... you're in an ugly situation. Your boss is reaching out to control parts of your life that are not his to dictate, and is apparently of the unreasonable and domineering type who will react very poorly indeed to any pushback. As for what to do about it (while you look for another job), it looks like you have three options.




        • You could keep biking in to work. If you're going to do that, you're going to have to assume that he will eventually notice. It leaves signs after all (additional sweat, loose lips, actually seeing you biking, and so forth). The question is what he's likely to do in response to this obvious opposition to his authority once he discovers it. Is he likely to fire you? Is he likely to yell at you? How bad is it likely to be? Are you willing to set yourself up for that happening? Assume that, whatever it is, it will happen eventually, and ask yourself if it's worth that experience.


        • You could make small amounts of pushback. Go to your boss, let him know that the only way you have to get to work is the bike, and that if he wants you to use Uber instead, you're going to need $20/day in expenses for it. Presenting it as "implementing this command will bear this cost" rather than "No, I won't do it" is likely going to be easier for him to swallow. Whether or not this is a good idea depends entirely on how you think he'd react to this, much lesser, level of pushback.


        • Finally, if your boss has enough threat over you to prevent even that, and is unreasonable enough to wield it indiscriminately to get what he wants without consideration of your needs, you can start paying tor Uber yourself. You should understand, though, that by doing that your'e essentially accepting that your boss can make unreasonable demands of you (this is an unreasonable demand) and insist that you pay for them out of your own pocket and that, to at least some degree, you'll do it. That brings this into the realm of "unhealthy relationships", and means that, if at all possible, you need to get out soon, before it starts bending you psychologically in unhealthy ways.







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        • 4





          Love this answer. The rest seem to focus on whether the manager is right (which he's not) but this one goes into what happens if a manager has a problem with you, regardless of who's right.

          – Kevin
          8 hours ago






        • 3





          Would add the alternative suggestion to boss, that OP can also walk,but then will arrive half an hour later and leave earlier. If boss says, OP's private life and how he gets to work should not affect his work life, the natural recourse is that vice versa work life should not affect private life and boss should take back his overbearing into OP's private sphere. If he wants to have control over his commute, it's obviously part of the work life, counts as work time and expenses are on the boss. (Feel free to add that line of argument, if you wish, or not^^)

          – Frank Hopkins
          7 hours ago













        • "Loose lips"? Where I am from, that phrase means sharing privileged information with unprivileged parties. What do you mean?

          – bishop
          7 hours ago






        • 3





          @bishop I think this is what Ben is referring to - i.e. that someone at work will say something to someone else about the OP biking in and that it will ultimately get back to the boss.

          – motosubatsu
          7 hours ago











        • @motosubatsu Ah, ok, yes: thank you. I understand the context now.

          – bishop
          4 hours ago
















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        So... you're in an ugly situation. Your boss is reaching out to control parts of your life that are not his to dictate, and is apparently of the unreasonable and domineering type who will react very poorly indeed to any pushback. As for what to do about it (while you look for another job), it looks like you have three options.




        • You could keep biking in to work. If you're going to do that, you're going to have to assume that he will eventually notice. It leaves signs after all (additional sweat, loose lips, actually seeing you biking, and so forth). The question is what he's likely to do in response to this obvious opposition to his authority once he discovers it. Is he likely to fire you? Is he likely to yell at you? How bad is it likely to be? Are you willing to set yourself up for that happening? Assume that, whatever it is, it will happen eventually, and ask yourself if it's worth that experience.


        • You could make small amounts of pushback. Go to your boss, let him know that the only way you have to get to work is the bike, and that if he wants you to use Uber instead, you're going to need $20/day in expenses for it. Presenting it as "implementing this command will bear this cost" rather than "No, I won't do it" is likely going to be easier for him to swallow. Whether or not this is a good idea depends entirely on how you think he'd react to this, much lesser, level of pushback.


        • Finally, if your boss has enough threat over you to prevent even that, and is unreasonable enough to wield it indiscriminately to get what he wants without consideration of your needs, you can start paying tor Uber yourself. You should understand, though, that by doing that your'e essentially accepting that your boss can make unreasonable demands of you (this is an unreasonable demand) and insist that you pay for them out of your own pocket and that, to at least some degree, you'll do it. That brings this into the realm of "unhealthy relationships", and means that, if at all possible, you need to get out soon, before it starts bending you psychologically in unhealthy ways.







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        • 4





          Love this answer. The rest seem to focus on whether the manager is right (which he's not) but this one goes into what happens if a manager has a problem with you, regardless of who's right.

          – Kevin
          8 hours ago






        • 3





          Would add the alternative suggestion to boss, that OP can also walk,but then will arrive half an hour later and leave earlier. If boss says, OP's private life and how he gets to work should not affect his work life, the natural recourse is that vice versa work life should not affect private life and boss should take back his overbearing into OP's private sphere. If he wants to have control over his commute, it's obviously part of the work life, counts as work time and expenses are on the boss. (Feel free to add that line of argument, if you wish, or not^^)

          – Frank Hopkins
          7 hours ago













        • "Loose lips"? Where I am from, that phrase means sharing privileged information with unprivileged parties. What do you mean?

          – bishop
          7 hours ago






        • 3





          @bishop I think this is what Ben is referring to - i.e. that someone at work will say something to someone else about the OP biking in and that it will ultimately get back to the boss.

          – motosubatsu
          7 hours ago











        • @motosubatsu Ah, ok, yes: thank you. I understand the context now.

          – bishop
          4 hours ago














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        So... you're in an ugly situation. Your boss is reaching out to control parts of your life that are not his to dictate, and is apparently of the unreasonable and domineering type who will react very poorly indeed to any pushback. As for what to do about it (while you look for another job), it looks like you have three options.




        • You could keep biking in to work. If you're going to do that, you're going to have to assume that he will eventually notice. It leaves signs after all (additional sweat, loose lips, actually seeing you biking, and so forth). The question is what he's likely to do in response to this obvious opposition to his authority once he discovers it. Is he likely to fire you? Is he likely to yell at you? How bad is it likely to be? Are you willing to set yourself up for that happening? Assume that, whatever it is, it will happen eventually, and ask yourself if it's worth that experience.


        • You could make small amounts of pushback. Go to your boss, let him know that the only way you have to get to work is the bike, and that if he wants you to use Uber instead, you're going to need $20/day in expenses for it. Presenting it as "implementing this command will bear this cost" rather than "No, I won't do it" is likely going to be easier for him to swallow. Whether or not this is a good idea depends entirely on how you think he'd react to this, much lesser, level of pushback.


        • Finally, if your boss has enough threat over you to prevent even that, and is unreasonable enough to wield it indiscriminately to get what he wants without consideration of your needs, you can start paying tor Uber yourself. You should understand, though, that by doing that your'e essentially accepting that your boss can make unreasonable demands of you (this is an unreasonable demand) and insist that you pay for them out of your own pocket and that, to at least some degree, you'll do it. That brings this into the realm of "unhealthy relationships", and means that, if at all possible, you need to get out soon, before it starts bending you psychologically in unhealthy ways.







        share|improve this answer















        So... you're in an ugly situation. Your boss is reaching out to control parts of your life that are not his to dictate, and is apparently of the unreasonable and domineering type who will react very poorly indeed to any pushback. As for what to do about it (while you look for another job), it looks like you have three options.




        • You could keep biking in to work. If you're going to do that, you're going to have to assume that he will eventually notice. It leaves signs after all (additional sweat, loose lips, actually seeing you biking, and so forth). The question is what he's likely to do in response to this obvious opposition to his authority once he discovers it. Is he likely to fire you? Is he likely to yell at you? How bad is it likely to be? Are you willing to set yourself up for that happening? Assume that, whatever it is, it will happen eventually, and ask yourself if it's worth that experience.


        • You could make small amounts of pushback. Go to your boss, let him know that the only way you have to get to work is the bike, and that if he wants you to use Uber instead, you're going to need $20/day in expenses for it. Presenting it as "implementing this command will bear this cost" rather than "No, I won't do it" is likely going to be easier for him to swallow. Whether or not this is a good idea depends entirely on how you think he'd react to this, much lesser, level of pushback.


        • Finally, if your boss has enough threat over you to prevent even that, and is unreasonable enough to wield it indiscriminately to get what he wants without consideration of your needs, you can start paying tor Uber yourself. You should understand, though, that by doing that your'e essentially accepting that your boss can make unreasonable demands of you (this is an unreasonable demand) and insist that you pay for them out of your own pocket and that, to at least some degree, you'll do it. That brings this into the realm of "unhealthy relationships", and means that, if at all possible, you need to get out soon, before it starts bending you psychologically in unhealthy ways.








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        • 4





          Love this answer. The rest seem to focus on whether the manager is right (which he's not) but this one goes into what happens if a manager has a problem with you, regardless of who's right.

          – Kevin
          8 hours ago






        • 3





          Would add the alternative suggestion to boss, that OP can also walk,but then will arrive half an hour later and leave earlier. If boss says, OP's private life and how he gets to work should not affect his work life, the natural recourse is that vice versa work life should not affect private life and boss should take back his overbearing into OP's private sphere. If he wants to have control over his commute, it's obviously part of the work life, counts as work time and expenses are on the boss. (Feel free to add that line of argument, if you wish, or not^^)

          – Frank Hopkins
          7 hours ago













        • "Loose lips"? Where I am from, that phrase means sharing privileged information with unprivileged parties. What do you mean?

          – bishop
          7 hours ago






        • 3





          @bishop I think this is what Ben is referring to - i.e. that someone at work will say something to someone else about the OP biking in and that it will ultimately get back to the boss.

          – motosubatsu
          7 hours ago











        • @motosubatsu Ah, ok, yes: thank you. I understand the context now.

          – bishop
          4 hours ago














        • 4





          Love this answer. The rest seem to focus on whether the manager is right (which he's not) but this one goes into what happens if a manager has a problem with you, regardless of who's right.

          – Kevin
          8 hours ago






        • 3





          Would add the alternative suggestion to boss, that OP can also walk,but then will arrive half an hour later and leave earlier. If boss says, OP's private life and how he gets to work should not affect his work life, the natural recourse is that vice versa work life should not affect private life and boss should take back his overbearing into OP's private sphere. If he wants to have control over his commute, it's obviously part of the work life, counts as work time and expenses are on the boss. (Feel free to add that line of argument, if you wish, or not^^)

          – Frank Hopkins
          7 hours ago













        • "Loose lips"? Where I am from, that phrase means sharing privileged information with unprivileged parties. What do you mean?

          – bishop
          7 hours ago






        • 3





          @bishop I think this is what Ben is referring to - i.e. that someone at work will say something to someone else about the OP biking in and that it will ultimately get back to the boss.

          – motosubatsu
          7 hours ago











        • @motosubatsu Ah, ok, yes: thank you. I understand the context now.

          – bishop
          4 hours ago








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        4





        Love this answer. The rest seem to focus on whether the manager is right (which he's not) but this one goes into what happens if a manager has a problem with you, regardless of who's right.

        – Kevin
        8 hours ago





        Love this answer. The rest seem to focus on whether the manager is right (which he's not) but this one goes into what happens if a manager has a problem with you, regardless of who's right.

        – Kevin
        8 hours ago




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        3





        Would add the alternative suggestion to boss, that OP can also walk,but then will arrive half an hour later and leave earlier. If boss says, OP's private life and how he gets to work should not affect his work life, the natural recourse is that vice versa work life should not affect private life and boss should take back his overbearing into OP's private sphere. If he wants to have control over his commute, it's obviously part of the work life, counts as work time and expenses are on the boss. (Feel free to add that line of argument, if you wish, or not^^)

        – Frank Hopkins
        7 hours ago







        Would add the alternative suggestion to boss, that OP can also walk,but then will arrive half an hour later and leave earlier. If boss says, OP's private life and how he gets to work should not affect his work life, the natural recourse is that vice versa work life should not affect private life and boss should take back his overbearing into OP's private sphere. If he wants to have control over his commute, it's obviously part of the work life, counts as work time and expenses are on the boss. (Feel free to add that line of argument, if you wish, or not^^)

        – Frank Hopkins
        7 hours ago















        "Loose lips"? Where I am from, that phrase means sharing privileged information with unprivileged parties. What do you mean?

        – bishop
        7 hours ago





        "Loose lips"? Where I am from, that phrase means sharing privileged information with unprivileged parties. What do you mean?

        – bishop
        7 hours ago




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        3





        @bishop I think this is what Ben is referring to - i.e. that someone at work will say something to someone else about the OP biking in and that it will ultimately get back to the boss.

        – motosubatsu
        7 hours ago





        @bishop I think this is what Ben is referring to - i.e. that someone at work will say something to someone else about the OP biking in and that it will ultimately get back to the boss.

        – motosubatsu
        7 hours ago













        @motosubatsu Ah, ok, yes: thank you. I understand the context now.

        – bishop
        4 hours ago





        @motosubatsu Ah, ok, yes: thank you. I understand the context now.

        – bishop
        4 hours ago













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        Your manager can't dictate the mode of transport that you use for commuting.



        If he is as much concerned about the safety of employees while commuting, and insists on using (or avoiding) a particular mode of transport, either:




        • ask them to get you reimbursed for the viable mode by the company,


        or




        • provide a company operated safer mode of transportation.






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        • The argument really ends after the first line. There is no point in asking for reimbursement or safer mode of transportation.

          – anal
          8 hours ago








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          @anal It's not as much about getting reimbursed, but to make an argument if the manager is insistent.

          – Nimesh Neema
          8 hours ago






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          I guess what a manager can and cannot dictate in a country with a good chance that the manager can fire literally "at will" is open to discussion.

          – nvoigt
          8 hours ago






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          @nvoigt The manager might want to avoid actually firing anyone though, because if an employee being gone for 2 days is a problem for him, an employee being gone forever will be a bigger problem.

          – Brilliand
          1 hour ago
















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        Your manager can't dictate the mode of transport that you use for commuting.



        If he is as much concerned about the safety of employees while commuting, and insists on using (or avoiding) a particular mode of transport, either:




        • ask them to get you reimbursed for the viable mode by the company,


        or




        • provide a company operated safer mode of transportation.






        share|improve this answer


























        • The argument really ends after the first line. There is no point in asking for reimbursement or safer mode of transportation.

          – anal
          8 hours ago








        • 1





          @anal It's not as much about getting reimbursed, but to make an argument if the manager is insistent.

          – Nimesh Neema
          8 hours ago






        • 4





          I guess what a manager can and cannot dictate in a country with a good chance that the manager can fire literally "at will" is open to discussion.

          – nvoigt
          8 hours ago






        • 1





          @nvoigt The manager might want to avoid actually firing anyone though, because if an employee being gone for 2 days is a problem for him, an employee being gone forever will be a bigger problem.

          – Brilliand
          1 hour ago














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        6







        Your manager can't dictate the mode of transport that you use for commuting.



        If he is as much concerned about the safety of employees while commuting, and insists on using (or avoiding) a particular mode of transport, either:




        • ask them to get you reimbursed for the viable mode by the company,


        or




        • provide a company operated safer mode of transportation.






        share|improve this answer















        Your manager can't dictate the mode of transport that you use for commuting.



        If he is as much concerned about the safety of employees while commuting, and insists on using (or avoiding) a particular mode of transport, either:




        • ask them to get you reimbursed for the viable mode by the company,


        or




        • provide a company operated safer mode of transportation.







        share|improve this answer














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        Nimesh NeemaNimesh Neema

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        • The argument really ends after the first line. There is no point in asking for reimbursement or safer mode of transportation.

          – anal
          8 hours ago








        • 1





          @anal It's not as much about getting reimbursed, but to make an argument if the manager is insistent.

          – Nimesh Neema
          8 hours ago






        • 4





          I guess what a manager can and cannot dictate in a country with a good chance that the manager can fire literally "at will" is open to discussion.

          – nvoigt
          8 hours ago






        • 1





          @nvoigt The manager might want to avoid actually firing anyone though, because if an employee being gone for 2 days is a problem for him, an employee being gone forever will be a bigger problem.

          – Brilliand
          1 hour ago



















        • The argument really ends after the first line. There is no point in asking for reimbursement or safer mode of transportation.

          – anal
          8 hours ago








        • 1





          @anal It's not as much about getting reimbursed, but to make an argument if the manager is insistent.

          – Nimesh Neema
          8 hours ago






        • 4





          I guess what a manager can and cannot dictate in a country with a good chance that the manager can fire literally "at will" is open to discussion.

          – nvoigt
          8 hours ago






        • 1





          @nvoigt The manager might want to avoid actually firing anyone though, because if an employee being gone for 2 days is a problem for him, an employee being gone forever will be a bigger problem.

          – Brilliand
          1 hour ago

















        The argument really ends after the first line. There is no point in asking for reimbursement or safer mode of transportation.

        – anal
        8 hours ago







        The argument really ends after the first line. There is no point in asking for reimbursement or safer mode of transportation.

        – anal
        8 hours ago






        1




        1





        @anal It's not as much about getting reimbursed, but to make an argument if the manager is insistent.

        – Nimesh Neema
        8 hours ago





        @anal It's not as much about getting reimbursed, but to make an argument if the manager is insistent.

        – Nimesh Neema
        8 hours ago




        4




        4





        I guess what a manager can and cannot dictate in a country with a good chance that the manager can fire literally "at will" is open to discussion.

        – nvoigt
        8 hours ago





        I guess what a manager can and cannot dictate in a country with a good chance that the manager can fire literally "at will" is open to discussion.

        – nvoigt
        8 hours ago




        1




        1





        @nvoigt The manager might want to avoid actually firing anyone though, because if an employee being gone for 2 days is a problem for him, an employee being gone forever will be a bigger problem.

        – Brilliand
        1 hour ago





        @nvoigt The manager might want to avoid actually firing anyone though, because if an employee being gone for 2 days is a problem for him, an employee being gone forever will be a bigger problem.

        – Brilliand
        1 hour ago











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        Unless you're working with an employment contract that allows your employer to dictate your travel behaviors (rare, but not inherently illegal or unheard of) it's quite obviously none of their business how you arrive at work.



        Given you said this,




        If you're going to suggest finding another job, that's a great idea, but without also suggesting what to do in the meantime it's unhelpful.




        it seems that you're willing (or already planning) to switch employers because you find your boss unreasonable. In that situation, I generally adopt an approach of "do what makes sense to me, and is defensible." In your situation, this would mean,




        • be able to show that I'm arriving at work by the agreed-upon time, regardless of my commute method

        • be able to show that bike commuting doesn't impact your work performance or ability to comply with reasonable requirements (i.e. you're not arriving sweaty and taking work time to change clothes. And, you're able to wear required dress code, or whatever)

        • know company policy and law about sick leave (effectively, your employer can't take action based on you being sick or injured)

        • arm yourself with information on the benefits of bike commuting, even if you expect your boss won't be receptive.


        And then, keep biking to work and hope for the best when an inevitable conflict happens. If you search workplace.SE for the word unreasonable you'll get plenty of suggestions.






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        • I would sure emphasize the "know company policy" point. I wouldn't put it past boss to try to deny benefits if you are injured while cycling.

          – DaveG
          9 hours ago











        • Doing so in any significant way would lead to a easy win in court. Company sick time (and possible state sick time laws) and disability laws aside, FMLA protects your job while allowing for up to 12 weeks off. FMLA cases are generally the easiest employment cases for the employee to win.

          – dwizum
          9 hours ago
















        3














        Unless you're working with an employment contract that allows your employer to dictate your travel behaviors (rare, but not inherently illegal or unheard of) it's quite obviously none of their business how you arrive at work.



        Given you said this,




        If you're going to suggest finding another job, that's a great idea, but without also suggesting what to do in the meantime it's unhelpful.




        it seems that you're willing (or already planning) to switch employers because you find your boss unreasonable. In that situation, I generally adopt an approach of "do what makes sense to me, and is defensible." In your situation, this would mean,




        • be able to show that I'm arriving at work by the agreed-upon time, regardless of my commute method

        • be able to show that bike commuting doesn't impact your work performance or ability to comply with reasonable requirements (i.e. you're not arriving sweaty and taking work time to change clothes. And, you're able to wear required dress code, or whatever)

        • know company policy and law about sick leave (effectively, your employer can't take action based on you being sick or injured)

        • arm yourself with information on the benefits of bike commuting, even if you expect your boss won't be receptive.


        And then, keep biking to work and hope for the best when an inevitable conflict happens. If you search workplace.SE for the word unreasonable you'll get plenty of suggestions.






        share|improve this answer
























        • I would sure emphasize the "know company policy" point. I wouldn't put it past boss to try to deny benefits if you are injured while cycling.

          – DaveG
          9 hours ago











        • Doing so in any significant way would lead to a easy win in court. Company sick time (and possible state sick time laws) and disability laws aside, FMLA protects your job while allowing for up to 12 weeks off. FMLA cases are generally the easiest employment cases for the employee to win.

          – dwizum
          9 hours ago














        3












        3








        3







        Unless you're working with an employment contract that allows your employer to dictate your travel behaviors (rare, but not inherently illegal or unheard of) it's quite obviously none of their business how you arrive at work.



        Given you said this,




        If you're going to suggest finding another job, that's a great idea, but without also suggesting what to do in the meantime it's unhelpful.




        it seems that you're willing (or already planning) to switch employers because you find your boss unreasonable. In that situation, I generally adopt an approach of "do what makes sense to me, and is defensible." In your situation, this would mean,




        • be able to show that I'm arriving at work by the agreed-upon time, regardless of my commute method

        • be able to show that bike commuting doesn't impact your work performance or ability to comply with reasonable requirements (i.e. you're not arriving sweaty and taking work time to change clothes. And, you're able to wear required dress code, or whatever)

        • know company policy and law about sick leave (effectively, your employer can't take action based on you being sick or injured)

        • arm yourself with information on the benefits of bike commuting, even if you expect your boss won't be receptive.


        And then, keep biking to work and hope for the best when an inevitable conflict happens. If you search workplace.SE for the word unreasonable you'll get plenty of suggestions.






        share|improve this answer













        Unless you're working with an employment contract that allows your employer to dictate your travel behaviors (rare, but not inherently illegal or unheard of) it's quite obviously none of their business how you arrive at work.



        Given you said this,




        If you're going to suggest finding another job, that's a great idea, but without also suggesting what to do in the meantime it's unhelpful.




        it seems that you're willing (or already planning) to switch employers because you find your boss unreasonable. In that situation, I generally adopt an approach of "do what makes sense to me, and is defensible." In your situation, this would mean,




        • be able to show that I'm arriving at work by the agreed-upon time, regardless of my commute method

        • be able to show that bike commuting doesn't impact your work performance or ability to comply with reasonable requirements (i.e. you're not arriving sweaty and taking work time to change clothes. And, you're able to wear required dress code, or whatever)

        • know company policy and law about sick leave (effectively, your employer can't take action based on you being sick or injured)

        • arm yourself with information on the benefits of bike commuting, even if you expect your boss won't be receptive.


        And then, keep biking to work and hope for the best when an inevitable conflict happens. If you search workplace.SE for the word unreasonable you'll get plenty of suggestions.







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        dwizumdwizum

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        • I would sure emphasize the "know company policy" point. I wouldn't put it past boss to try to deny benefits if you are injured while cycling.

          – DaveG
          9 hours ago











        • Doing so in any significant way would lead to a easy win in court. Company sick time (and possible state sick time laws) and disability laws aside, FMLA protects your job while allowing for up to 12 weeks off. FMLA cases are generally the easiest employment cases for the employee to win.

          – dwizum
          9 hours ago



















        • I would sure emphasize the "know company policy" point. I wouldn't put it past boss to try to deny benefits if you are injured while cycling.

          – DaveG
          9 hours ago











        • Doing so in any significant way would lead to a easy win in court. Company sick time (and possible state sick time laws) and disability laws aside, FMLA protects your job while allowing for up to 12 weeks off. FMLA cases are generally the easiest employment cases for the employee to win.

          – dwizum
          9 hours ago

















        I would sure emphasize the "know company policy" point. I wouldn't put it past boss to try to deny benefits if you are injured while cycling.

        – DaveG
        9 hours ago





        I would sure emphasize the "know company policy" point. I wouldn't put it past boss to try to deny benefits if you are injured while cycling.

        – DaveG
        9 hours ago













        Doing so in any significant way would lead to a easy win in court. Company sick time (and possible state sick time laws) and disability laws aside, FMLA protects your job while allowing for up to 12 weeks off. FMLA cases are generally the easiest employment cases for the employee to win.

        – dwizum
        9 hours ago





        Doing so in any significant way would lead to a easy win in court. Company sick time (and possible state sick time laws) and disability laws aside, FMLA protects your job while allowing for up to 12 weeks off. FMLA cases are generally the easiest employment cases for the employee to win.

        – dwizum
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        Should I just keep biking in and see what he does about it, or start spending $20/day on Ubers to commute?




        Continue to use your preferred mode of transportation to go to work and don't worry about your manager's foolish request. If your manager attempts to discipline you in any way, I would escalate to HR or anyone higher up in the chain of your company. In the meantime you should brush up your resume and look for a new company to work for.






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        • Agreed the boss is wrong, but do we know it's illegal? It seems like the law wouldn't support the bosses' assertion but may not really protect against it. Employers can discriminate, for example, on virtually anything except for specific stated characteristics such as race, ethnicity, gender, age, pregnancy, marital status, etc. Mode of transportation isn't a protected class.

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          @JohnSpiegel An employer can require their employees to use a company provided form of transportation, but this would be something written into their contracts which the OP has not indicated is the case so I have edited the answer removing the illegal aspect as it is unclear.

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          Well, the company provided form of transportation is normally a totally reasonable thing. Like taking the companies shuttle helicopter to the offshore drilling rig instead of arriving at random intervals with your own private helicopter or kayaking in on Fridays. I have never heard of an employer requiring a type of transportation for a normal, reachable-by-individual-means jobsite.

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        Should I just keep biking in and see what he does about it, or start spending $20/day on Ubers to commute?




        Continue to use your preferred mode of transportation to go to work and don't worry about your manager's foolish request. If your manager attempts to discipline you in any way, I would escalate to HR or anyone higher up in the chain of your company. In the meantime you should brush up your resume and look for a new company to work for.






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        • Agreed the boss is wrong, but do we know it's illegal? It seems like the law wouldn't support the bosses' assertion but may not really protect against it. Employers can discriminate, for example, on virtually anything except for specific stated characteristics such as race, ethnicity, gender, age, pregnancy, marital status, etc. Mode of transportation isn't a protected class.

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          @JohnSpiegel An employer can require their employees to use a company provided form of transportation, but this would be something written into their contracts which the OP has not indicated is the case so I have edited the answer removing the illegal aspect as it is unclear.

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          Well, the company provided form of transportation is normally a totally reasonable thing. Like taking the companies shuttle helicopter to the offshore drilling rig instead of arriving at random intervals with your own private helicopter or kayaking in on Fridays. I have never heard of an employer requiring a type of transportation for a normal, reachable-by-individual-means jobsite.

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        Should I just keep biking in and see what he does about it, or start spending $20/day on Ubers to commute?




        Continue to use your preferred mode of transportation to go to work and don't worry about your manager's foolish request. If your manager attempts to discipline you in any way, I would escalate to HR or anyone higher up in the chain of your company. In the meantime you should brush up your resume and look for a new company to work for.






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        Should I just keep biking in and see what he does about it, or start spending $20/day on Ubers to commute?




        Continue to use your preferred mode of transportation to go to work and don't worry about your manager's foolish request. If your manager attempts to discipline you in any way, I would escalate to HR or anyone higher up in the chain of your company. In the meantime you should brush up your resume and look for a new company to work for.







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        • Agreed the boss is wrong, but do we know it's illegal? It seems like the law wouldn't support the bosses' assertion but may not really protect against it. Employers can discriminate, for example, on virtually anything except for specific stated characteristics such as race, ethnicity, gender, age, pregnancy, marital status, etc. Mode of transportation isn't a protected class.

          – John Spiegel
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          @JohnSpiegel An employer can require their employees to use a company provided form of transportation, but this would be something written into their contracts which the OP has not indicated is the case so I have edited the answer removing the illegal aspect as it is unclear.

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          8 hours ago






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          Well, the company provided form of transportation is normally a totally reasonable thing. Like taking the companies shuttle helicopter to the offshore drilling rig instead of arriving at random intervals with your own private helicopter or kayaking in on Fridays. I have never heard of an employer requiring a type of transportation for a normal, reachable-by-individual-means jobsite.

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        • Agreed the boss is wrong, but do we know it's illegal? It seems like the law wouldn't support the bosses' assertion but may not really protect against it. Employers can discriminate, for example, on virtually anything except for specific stated characteristics such as race, ethnicity, gender, age, pregnancy, marital status, etc. Mode of transportation isn't a protected class.

          – John Spiegel
          9 hours ago






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          @JohnSpiegel An employer can require their employees to use a company provided form of transportation, but this would be something written into their contracts which the OP has not indicated is the case so I have edited the answer removing the illegal aspect as it is unclear.

          – sf02
          8 hours ago






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          Well, the company provided form of transportation is normally a totally reasonable thing. Like taking the companies shuttle helicopter to the offshore drilling rig instead of arriving at random intervals with your own private helicopter or kayaking in on Fridays. I have never heard of an employer requiring a type of transportation for a normal, reachable-by-individual-means jobsite.

          – nvoigt
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        Agreed the boss is wrong, but do we know it's illegal? It seems like the law wouldn't support the bosses' assertion but may not really protect against it. Employers can discriminate, for example, on virtually anything except for specific stated characteristics such as race, ethnicity, gender, age, pregnancy, marital status, etc. Mode of transportation isn't a protected class.

        – John Spiegel
        9 hours ago





        Agreed the boss is wrong, but do we know it's illegal? It seems like the law wouldn't support the bosses' assertion but may not really protect against it. Employers can discriminate, for example, on virtually anything except for specific stated characteristics such as race, ethnicity, gender, age, pregnancy, marital status, etc. Mode of transportation isn't a protected class.

        – John Spiegel
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        @JohnSpiegel An employer can require their employees to use a company provided form of transportation, but this would be something written into their contracts which the OP has not indicated is the case so I have edited the answer removing the illegal aspect as it is unclear.

        – sf02
        8 hours ago





        @JohnSpiegel An employer can require their employees to use a company provided form of transportation, but this would be something written into their contracts which the OP has not indicated is the case so I have edited the answer removing the illegal aspect as it is unclear.

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        Well, the company provided form of transportation is normally a totally reasonable thing. Like taking the companies shuttle helicopter to the offshore drilling rig instead of arriving at random intervals with your own private helicopter or kayaking in on Fridays. I have never heard of an employer requiring a type of transportation for a normal, reachable-by-individual-means jobsite.

        – nvoigt
        7 hours ago





        Well, the company provided form of transportation is normally a totally reasonable thing. Like taking the companies shuttle helicopter to the offshore drilling rig instead of arriving at random intervals with your own private helicopter or kayaking in on Fridays. I have never heard of an employer requiring a type of transportation for a normal, reachable-by-individual-means jobsite.

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        Have you actually met with your boss or sent him an email regarding this subject?




        Boss, Last week you mentioned workers are no longer allowed to commute to work by bicycle. I want clarification of this rule as this is my primary mode of transportation. Thank you.




        As far as I can tell though, there isn't anyway he can tell you what sort of activities you engage in. Now while that isn't lawful, that doesn't stop your boss from firing you if you are a at-will worker. So you'll want clarification from him for sure and make sure he knows it is your only method of transportation.






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          Have you actually met with your boss or sent him an email regarding this subject?




          Boss, Last week you mentioned workers are no longer allowed to commute to work by bicycle. I want clarification of this rule as this is my primary mode of transportation. Thank you.




          As far as I can tell though, there isn't anyway he can tell you what sort of activities you engage in. Now while that isn't lawful, that doesn't stop your boss from firing you if you are a at-will worker. So you'll want clarification from him for sure and make sure he knows it is your only method of transportation.






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            Have you actually met with your boss or sent him an email regarding this subject?




            Boss, Last week you mentioned workers are no longer allowed to commute to work by bicycle. I want clarification of this rule as this is my primary mode of transportation. Thank you.




            As far as I can tell though, there isn't anyway he can tell you what sort of activities you engage in. Now while that isn't lawful, that doesn't stop your boss from firing you if you are a at-will worker. So you'll want clarification from him for sure and make sure he knows it is your only method of transportation.






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            Have you actually met with your boss or sent him an email regarding this subject?




            Boss, Last week you mentioned workers are no longer allowed to commute to work by bicycle. I want clarification of this rule as this is my primary mode of transportation. Thank you.




            As far as I can tell though, there isn't anyway he can tell you what sort of activities you engage in. Now while that isn't lawful, that doesn't stop your boss from firing you if you are a at-will worker. So you'll want clarification from him for sure and make sure he knows it is your only method of transportation.







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                Your boss does not get to make decisions for you outside the office.
                He doesn't choose your dinner, shampoo, entertainment, hobbies. So why would he get to decide your mode of transport.



                He may be able to keep you from parking your bike on company property. So perhaps lock you bike up off campus but in a safe and secure manor.






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                  Your boss does not get to make decisions for you outside the office.
                  He doesn't choose your dinner, shampoo, entertainment, hobbies. So why would he get to decide your mode of transport.



                  He may be able to keep you from parking your bike on company property. So perhaps lock you bike up off campus but in a safe and secure manor.






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                    Your boss does not get to make decisions for you outside the office.
                    He doesn't choose your dinner, shampoo, entertainment, hobbies. So why would he get to decide your mode of transport.



                    He may be able to keep you from parking your bike on company property. So perhaps lock you bike up off campus but in a safe and secure manor.






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                    Your boss does not get to make decisions for you outside the office.
                    He doesn't choose your dinner, shampoo, entertainment, hobbies. So why would he get to decide your mode of transport.



                    He may be able to keep you from parking your bike on company property. So perhaps lock you bike up off campus but in a safe and secure manor.







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                        Thinking out loud here.



                        What someone was driving to work and was in an accident? Ban driving to work?



                        What if your Uber driver was in an accident, you were injured and missed work? Ban Uber?



                        What if you lived close enough to work to walk, twisted an ankle and missed work? Ban walking?



                        Is he purchasing bubble-wrap?



                        What about company apartments within walking distance?





                        His demand is silly. That's in the hypothetical 'what-ifs'. If (s)he can't manage the team if someone is out unexpectedly for several days then they don't have any business being a manager. S**t happens.






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                          I think it's pretty clear that the demand is silly. The question is, what should the OP do?

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                        Thinking out loud here.



                        What someone was driving to work and was in an accident? Ban driving to work?



                        What if your Uber driver was in an accident, you were injured and missed work? Ban Uber?



                        What if you lived close enough to work to walk, twisted an ankle and missed work? Ban walking?



                        Is he purchasing bubble-wrap?



                        What about company apartments within walking distance?





                        His demand is silly. That's in the hypothetical 'what-ifs'. If (s)he can't manage the team if someone is out unexpectedly for several days then they don't have any business being a manager. S**t happens.






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                          What action do you suggest the OP take?

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                          I think it's pretty clear that the demand is silly. The question is, what should the OP do?

                          – espindolaa
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                        Thinking out loud here.



                        What someone was driving to work and was in an accident? Ban driving to work?



                        What if your Uber driver was in an accident, you were injured and missed work? Ban Uber?



                        What if you lived close enough to work to walk, twisted an ankle and missed work? Ban walking?



                        Is he purchasing bubble-wrap?



                        What about company apartments within walking distance?





                        His demand is silly. That's in the hypothetical 'what-ifs'. If (s)he can't manage the team if someone is out unexpectedly for several days then they don't have any business being a manager. S**t happens.






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                        Thinking out loud here.



                        What someone was driving to work and was in an accident? Ban driving to work?



                        What if your Uber driver was in an accident, you were injured and missed work? Ban Uber?



                        What if you lived close enough to work to walk, twisted an ankle and missed work? Ban walking?



                        Is he purchasing bubble-wrap?



                        What about company apartments within walking distance?





                        His demand is silly. That's in the hypothetical 'what-ifs'. If (s)he can't manage the team if someone is out unexpectedly for several days then they don't have any business being a manager. S**t happens.







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                          What action do you suggest the OP take?

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                          I think it's pretty clear that the demand is silly. The question is, what should the OP do?

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                          I think it's pretty clear that the demand is silly. The question is, what should the OP do?

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                        What action do you suggest the OP take?

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                        What action do you suggest the OP take?

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                        I think it's pretty clear that the demand is silly. The question is, what should the OP do?

                        – espindolaa
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                        I think it's pretty clear that the demand is silly. The question is, what should the OP do?

                        – espindolaa
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                        In any employer-employee relation, there are benefits and disadvantages for employer and employee. For the employee what counts is salary, cost involved (for example for transport), being away from home, enjoying or hating the work or being with your colleagues and managers.



                        If you find a position that benefits you more, you switch jobs (although switching has disadvantages by itself).



                        Your boss just changed the equation. He wants to inflict cost of $20 per day on you. Lots of jobs that did not look better than your current job now do. There are bosses that are so full of themselves that they don’t get a simple fact like that. So first this is something you have to explain to your boss.



                        But I’m not quite sure about you using “boss” in some places and “manager” in other places. If he is just a manager, then the easiest is to go to HR or payroll and ask them how to go about getting your cost for Uber refunded. Most likely they will ask why you think you should get that cost refunded when you could just cycle to work, and then you say what your manager demands, and that is likely when something hits the fan.






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                          In any employer-employee relation, there are benefits and disadvantages for employer and employee. For the employee what counts is salary, cost involved (for example for transport), being away from home, enjoying or hating the work or being with your colleagues and managers.



                          If you find a position that benefits you more, you switch jobs (although switching has disadvantages by itself).



                          Your boss just changed the equation. He wants to inflict cost of $20 per day on you. Lots of jobs that did not look better than your current job now do. There are bosses that are so full of themselves that they don’t get a simple fact like that. So first this is something you have to explain to your boss.



                          But I’m not quite sure about you using “boss” in some places and “manager” in other places. If he is just a manager, then the easiest is to go to HR or payroll and ask them how to go about getting your cost for Uber refunded. Most likely they will ask why you think you should get that cost refunded when you could just cycle to work, and then you say what your manager demands, and that is likely when something hits the fan.






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                            In any employer-employee relation, there are benefits and disadvantages for employer and employee. For the employee what counts is salary, cost involved (for example for transport), being away from home, enjoying or hating the work or being with your colleagues and managers.



                            If you find a position that benefits you more, you switch jobs (although switching has disadvantages by itself).



                            Your boss just changed the equation. He wants to inflict cost of $20 per day on you. Lots of jobs that did not look better than your current job now do. There are bosses that are so full of themselves that they don’t get a simple fact like that. So first this is something you have to explain to your boss.



                            But I’m not quite sure about you using “boss” in some places and “manager” in other places. If he is just a manager, then the easiest is to go to HR or payroll and ask them how to go about getting your cost for Uber refunded. Most likely they will ask why you think you should get that cost refunded when you could just cycle to work, and then you say what your manager demands, and that is likely when something hits the fan.






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                            In any employer-employee relation, there are benefits and disadvantages for employer and employee. For the employee what counts is salary, cost involved (for example for transport), being away from home, enjoying or hating the work or being with your colleagues and managers.



                            If you find a position that benefits you more, you switch jobs (although switching has disadvantages by itself).



                            Your boss just changed the equation. He wants to inflict cost of $20 per day on you. Lots of jobs that did not look better than your current job now do. There are bosses that are so full of themselves that they don’t get a simple fact like that. So first this is something you have to explain to your boss.



                            But I’m not quite sure about you using “boss” in some places and “manager” in other places. If he is just a manager, then the easiest is to go to HR or payroll and ask them how to go about getting your cost for Uber refunded. Most likely they will ask why you think you should get that cost refunded when you could just cycle to work, and then you say what your manager demands, and that is likely when something hits the fan.







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