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Do my potential customers need to understand the “meaning” of a logo, or just recognize it?


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I'm trying to come up with a logo for a web devlopment freelance company called Two-Bit Studios. The logo concept that I came up with involves a 1 and 0 combined to make a lowercase 'b'.



To me as a developer, this makes sense in many ways.




  1. "bits" are just binary digits with the only options of 1 or 0.

  2. The binary representation for two is '10'

  3. The 1 and 0 makes a lowercase 'b' which is the symbol for 'bit' (as well as the first letter, for extra clarity).


However, most of the people I'd be doing development work probably wouldn't know any of that, they'll probably just see a stylized 'b' which is a pretty insignificant part of "two-bit". Would this lead to a lot of misunderstanding or is the recognition of the logo more important.



(Note: I'm not a designer I'll be sending off my concept to someone more talented to greatly refine it, I'm just supplying the idea, this question is just about the concept of the logo).



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    I think the discussion is being led by the idea of bits a little too much here: "two-bit" has a very definite meaning in American English ("insignificant" or "cheap/poor quality"). Certainly used here as playful and ironic, but it should be considered as the primary meaning, regardless of the business domain.

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I'm trying to come up with a logo for a web devlopment freelance company called Two-Bit Studios. The logo concept that I came up with involves a 1 and 0 combined to make a lowercase 'b'.



To me as a developer, this makes sense in many ways.




  1. "bits" are just binary digits with the only options of 1 or 0.

  2. The binary representation for two is '10'

  3. The 1 and 0 makes a lowercase 'b' which is the symbol for 'bit' (as well as the first letter, for extra clarity).


However, most of the people I'd be doing development work probably wouldn't know any of that, they'll probably just see a stylized 'b' which is a pretty insignificant part of "two-bit". Would this lead to a lot of misunderstanding or is the recognition of the logo more important.



(Note: I'm not a designer I'll be sending off my concept to someone more talented to greatly refine it, I'm just supplying the idea, this question is just about the concept of the logo).



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    Insert compulsory, "There are 10 types of people in the world…" joke here.

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    This is a great, great question!

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    I think the discussion is being led by the idea of bits a little too much here: "two-bit" has a very definite meaning in American English ("insignificant" or "cheap/poor quality"). Certainly used here as playful and ironic, but it should be considered as the primary meaning, regardless of the business domain.

    – Yorik
    5 hours ago








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I'm trying to come up with a logo for a web devlopment freelance company called Two-Bit Studios. The logo concept that I came up with involves a 1 and 0 combined to make a lowercase 'b'.



To me as a developer, this makes sense in many ways.




  1. "bits" are just binary digits with the only options of 1 or 0.

  2. The binary representation for two is '10'

  3. The 1 and 0 makes a lowercase 'b' which is the symbol for 'bit' (as well as the first letter, for extra clarity).


However, most of the people I'd be doing development work probably wouldn't know any of that, they'll probably just see a stylized 'b' which is a pretty insignificant part of "two-bit". Would this lead to a lot of misunderstanding or is the recognition of the logo more important.



(Note: I'm not a designer I'll be sending off my concept to someone more talented to greatly refine it, I'm just supplying the idea, this question is just about the concept of the logo).



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I'm trying to come up with a logo for a web devlopment freelance company called Two-Bit Studios. The logo concept that I came up with involves a 1 and 0 combined to make a lowercase 'b'.



To me as a developer, this makes sense in many ways.




  1. "bits" are just binary digits with the only options of 1 or 0.

  2. The binary representation for two is '10'

  3. The 1 and 0 makes a lowercase 'b' which is the symbol for 'bit' (as well as the first letter, for extra clarity).


However, most of the people I'd be doing development work probably wouldn't know any of that, they'll probably just see a stylized 'b' which is a pretty insignificant part of "two-bit". Would this lead to a lot of misunderstanding or is the recognition of the logo more important.



(Note: I'm not a designer I'll be sending off my concept to someone more talented to greatly refine it, I'm just supplying the idea, this question is just about the concept of the logo).



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  • 5





    Insert compulsory, "There are 10 types of people in the world…" joke here.

    – Tetsujin
    9 hours ago






  • 2





    This is a great, great question!

    – Rafael
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    I think the discussion is being led by the idea of bits a little too much here: "two-bit" has a very definite meaning in American English ("insignificant" or "cheap/poor quality"). Certainly used here as playful and ironic, but it should be considered as the primary meaning, regardless of the business domain.

    – Yorik
    5 hours ago








  • 1





    On first look, the logo seems more like "1 bit".

    – Steve Rindsberg
    4 hours ago














  • 5





    Insert compulsory, "There are 10 types of people in the world…" joke here.

    – Tetsujin
    9 hours ago






  • 2





    This is a great, great question!

    – Rafael
    8 hours ago






  • 3





    I think the discussion is being led by the idea of bits a little too much here: "two-bit" has a very definite meaning in American English ("insignificant" or "cheap/poor quality"). Certainly used here as playful and ironic, but it should be considered as the primary meaning, regardless of the business domain.

    – Yorik
    5 hours ago








  • 1





    On first look, the logo seems more like "1 bit".

    – Steve Rindsberg
    4 hours ago








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5





Insert compulsory, "There are 10 types of people in the world…" joke here.

– Tetsujin
9 hours ago





Insert compulsory, "There are 10 types of people in the world…" joke here.

– Tetsujin
9 hours ago




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This is a great, great question!

– Rafael
8 hours ago





This is a great, great question!

– Rafael
8 hours ago




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3





I think the discussion is being led by the idea of bits a little too much here: "two-bit" has a very definite meaning in American English ("insignificant" or "cheap/poor quality"). Certainly used here as playful and ironic, but it should be considered as the primary meaning, regardless of the business domain.

– Yorik
5 hours ago







I think the discussion is being led by the idea of bits a little too much here: "two-bit" has a very definite meaning in American English ("insignificant" or "cheap/poor quality"). Certainly used here as playful and ironic, but it should be considered as the primary meaning, regardless of the business domain.

– Yorik
5 hours ago






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On first look, the logo seems more like "1 bit".

– Steve Rindsberg
4 hours ago





On first look, the logo seems more like "1 bit".

– Steve Rindsberg
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Your customers don't have to understand your name. Your customers don't have to understand your logo. Your customers do have to remember both. To make it easier to remember you'll typically make a logo that relates to the name.



The most important thing though is that its memorable. Any reasoning behind it quite honestly doesn't matter.



A mentor of mine many years ago named his company 540 Interactive. The 540 was the number of times a bird he owned flapped its wings in a minute. His logo was the text 540 Interactive with a little bird perched atop it. Did anyone ever get why the bird was related? Nope! Did it matter? Nope!



The fact is if the logo makes sense to you, don't worry about whether or not anyone else gets all of the nuance behind it. If someone asks you can explain it. Making it memorable and putting it in front of customers is far more important.






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Do my potential customers need to understand the “meaning” of a logo?




If a 100% understanding is not achieved graphically, at least it should have a hint of the meaning.




Do my potential customers need to recognize my logo?




100% yes.



As in everything, I think it's about reaching a balance, if it turns in favor of one of the two options, much better for you, your company and your clients.





Now:



I don't think it's very positive to disadvantage this balance towards a negative point. In the case of your logo, beyond formal errors, which has them, there's a quite important conceptual controversy that leads any potential customer not to immediately interpret its meaning.



The company is called “TWO-Bit Studios” and the main image perceived is a “1”.



Beyond the meanings, there is formally a two represented with a one.



A few years ago, quite a few, there was a stylistic tendency derived from deconstructivism that favored this type of interpretation to catch the public attention. There are examples in advertising, fashion, architecture and also in graphic design where for example a logo had some error in kerning, or alignment, or also some conceptual ambivalences. If in your case you talk about 2 and the image represents a 1 (and a 0), you are generating an ambiguity that can affect an effective result of your logo, which can be remembered for the “pseudo” error, but I don't think it will be interpreted.



Imagine your logo with the name below:



logo+name



There is a graphic representation of four elements: the two, the one, the 0 and the bit b:





  • 4210b


Maybe for a developer it might be something immediate, for a general public I don't think so.





I am not a developer, but I know that among the main visual characteristics of the binary code are:




  • Items repetition

  • Equal distance between each component


enter image description here



Neither of these two features is represented to favor the shape of the letter b. Another point to increase the non-immediate interpretation.





Personally I think there are too many elements for something so simple. Perhaps a cleaning in the conceptual argument favors both points raised in the question:




  • Do my potential customers need to understand the “meaning” of a logo?

  • Do my potential customers need to recognize the logo?






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    Yes, customers need to understand a logo, especially with a new first-contact, never-seen-this-before logo. They will — in time — recognize it after seeing it repeatedly, but it still needs to make sense for anyone looking at it for the first time, which could be likely to say:




    • is this really a "b"?

    • doesn't it look like a "ten"?

    • where's the "2"?

    • why different shades of white?

    • why semi-transparent?

    • why red?


    It just looks more complicated then it should be, but good to hear you're sending this off to a professional who may be able to give you a new perspective. As a designer, i think there's definitely a better way to look at this.






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      "10" is "2" in binary

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    • Yes, but quoting yourself: "most of the people I'd be doing development work probably wouldn't know any of that". If you type "10" anywhere, even a programmer will just read a "10" in the outside world where there's no text editor right in front of their eyes. If they see a 10$ bill would they think its a 2$ bill? :)) Would you take 2$ for a 10$ project?

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    Do my potential customers need to understand the “meaning” of a logo,
    or just recognize it?




    Simple answer: both



    To me all well established brands have logos with meaning. For example McDonalds is known for it's iconic arched M:



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    and Baskin Robins is known historically for 31 flavors of ice-cream:



    enter image description here



    references from: 29 Logos With Super Sneaky Hidden Meanings



    That said when I look at your logo I cannot put Two-Bit Studios into that logo. Maybe make the 1 more established by using a serif font deconstructed with a sans-serif 0 to come up with a b. Another suggestion on creation is you can use a play on words by implementing in the number 2 and use some breaking off bits, such as:



    enter image description here



    Another suggestion is not even to start looking or adding color. Stick to black and white in the creation phase. If you look at the two posted sample logos they each can work in black and white. If your logo cannot exist as black and white I'd argue is it not a well developed logo.






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      Your customers don't have to understand your name. Your customers don't have to understand your logo. Your customers do have to remember both. To make it easier to remember you'll typically make a logo that relates to the name.



      The most important thing though is that its memorable. Any reasoning behind it quite honestly doesn't matter.



      A mentor of mine many years ago named his company 540 Interactive. The 540 was the number of times a bird he owned flapped its wings in a minute. His logo was the text 540 Interactive with a little bird perched atop it. Did anyone ever get why the bird was related? Nope! Did it matter? Nope!



      The fact is if the logo makes sense to you, don't worry about whether or not anyone else gets all of the nuance behind it. If someone asks you can explain it. Making it memorable and putting it in front of customers is far more important.






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        And I'd bet that people ALWAYS asked "Why the bird?" And once told, never forgot the logo.

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      Your customers don't have to understand your name. Your customers don't have to understand your logo. Your customers do have to remember both. To make it easier to remember you'll typically make a logo that relates to the name.



      The most important thing though is that its memorable. Any reasoning behind it quite honestly doesn't matter.



      A mentor of mine many years ago named his company 540 Interactive. The 540 was the number of times a bird he owned flapped its wings in a minute. His logo was the text 540 Interactive with a little bird perched atop it. Did anyone ever get why the bird was related? Nope! Did it matter? Nope!



      The fact is if the logo makes sense to you, don't worry about whether or not anyone else gets all of the nuance behind it. If someone asks you can explain it. Making it memorable and putting it in front of customers is far more important.






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        And I'd bet that people ALWAYS asked "Why the bird?" And once told, never forgot the logo.

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      Your customers don't have to understand your name. Your customers don't have to understand your logo. Your customers do have to remember both. To make it easier to remember you'll typically make a logo that relates to the name.



      The most important thing though is that its memorable. Any reasoning behind it quite honestly doesn't matter.



      A mentor of mine many years ago named his company 540 Interactive. The 540 was the number of times a bird he owned flapped its wings in a minute. His logo was the text 540 Interactive with a little bird perched atop it. Did anyone ever get why the bird was related? Nope! Did it matter? Nope!



      The fact is if the logo makes sense to you, don't worry about whether or not anyone else gets all of the nuance behind it. If someone asks you can explain it. Making it memorable and putting it in front of customers is far more important.






      share|improve this answer













      Your customers don't have to understand your name. Your customers don't have to understand your logo. Your customers do have to remember both. To make it easier to remember you'll typically make a logo that relates to the name.



      The most important thing though is that its memorable. Any reasoning behind it quite honestly doesn't matter.



      A mentor of mine many years ago named his company 540 Interactive. The 540 was the number of times a bird he owned flapped its wings in a minute. His logo was the text 540 Interactive with a little bird perched atop it. Did anyone ever get why the bird was related? Nope! Did it matter? Nope!



      The fact is if the logo makes sense to you, don't worry about whether or not anyone else gets all of the nuance behind it. If someone asks you can explain it. Making it memorable and putting it in front of customers is far more important.







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        And I'd bet that people ALWAYS asked "Why the bird?" And once told, never forgot the logo.

        – Steve Rindsberg
        4 hours ago














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        And I'd bet that people ALWAYS asked "Why the bird?" And once told, never forgot the logo.

        – Steve Rindsberg
        4 hours ago








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      And I'd bet that people ALWAYS asked "Why the bird?" And once told, never forgot the logo.

      – Steve Rindsberg
      4 hours ago





      And I'd bet that people ALWAYS asked "Why the bird?" And once told, never forgot the logo.

      – Steve Rindsberg
      4 hours ago













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      Do my potential customers need to understand the “meaning” of a logo?




      If a 100% understanding is not achieved graphically, at least it should have a hint of the meaning.




      Do my potential customers need to recognize my logo?




      100% yes.



      As in everything, I think it's about reaching a balance, if it turns in favor of one of the two options, much better for you, your company and your clients.





      Now:



      I don't think it's very positive to disadvantage this balance towards a negative point. In the case of your logo, beyond formal errors, which has them, there's a quite important conceptual controversy that leads any potential customer not to immediately interpret its meaning.



      The company is called “TWO-Bit Studios” and the main image perceived is a “1”.



      Beyond the meanings, there is formally a two represented with a one.



      A few years ago, quite a few, there was a stylistic tendency derived from deconstructivism that favored this type of interpretation to catch the public attention. There are examples in advertising, fashion, architecture and also in graphic design where for example a logo had some error in kerning, or alignment, or also some conceptual ambivalences. If in your case you talk about 2 and the image represents a 1 (and a 0), you are generating an ambiguity that can affect an effective result of your logo, which can be remembered for the “pseudo” error, but I don't think it will be interpreted.



      Imagine your logo with the name below:



      logo+name



      There is a graphic representation of four elements: the two, the one, the 0 and the bit b:





      • 4210b


      Maybe for a developer it might be something immediate, for a general public I don't think so.





      I am not a developer, but I know that among the main visual characteristics of the binary code are:




      • Items repetition

      • Equal distance between each component


      enter image description here



      Neither of these two features is represented to favor the shape of the letter b. Another point to increase the non-immediate interpretation.





      Personally I think there are too many elements for something so simple. Perhaps a cleaning in the conceptual argument favors both points raised in the question:




      • Do my potential customers need to understand the “meaning” of a logo?

      • Do my potential customers need to recognize the logo?






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        Do my potential customers need to understand the “meaning” of a logo?




        If a 100% understanding is not achieved graphically, at least it should have a hint of the meaning.




        Do my potential customers need to recognize my logo?




        100% yes.



        As in everything, I think it's about reaching a balance, if it turns in favor of one of the two options, much better for you, your company and your clients.





        Now:



        I don't think it's very positive to disadvantage this balance towards a negative point. In the case of your logo, beyond formal errors, which has them, there's a quite important conceptual controversy that leads any potential customer not to immediately interpret its meaning.



        The company is called “TWO-Bit Studios” and the main image perceived is a “1”.



        Beyond the meanings, there is formally a two represented with a one.



        A few years ago, quite a few, there was a stylistic tendency derived from deconstructivism that favored this type of interpretation to catch the public attention. There are examples in advertising, fashion, architecture and also in graphic design where for example a logo had some error in kerning, or alignment, or also some conceptual ambivalences. If in your case you talk about 2 and the image represents a 1 (and a 0), you are generating an ambiguity that can affect an effective result of your logo, which can be remembered for the “pseudo” error, but I don't think it will be interpreted.



        Imagine your logo with the name below:



        logo+name



        There is a graphic representation of four elements: the two, the one, the 0 and the bit b:





        • 4210b


        Maybe for a developer it might be something immediate, for a general public I don't think so.





        I am not a developer, but I know that among the main visual characteristics of the binary code are:




        • Items repetition

        • Equal distance between each component


        enter image description here



        Neither of these two features is represented to favor the shape of the letter b. Another point to increase the non-immediate interpretation.





        Personally I think there are too many elements for something so simple. Perhaps a cleaning in the conceptual argument favors both points raised in the question:




        • Do my potential customers need to understand the “meaning” of a logo?

        • Do my potential customers need to recognize the logo?






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          Do my potential customers need to understand the “meaning” of a logo?




          If a 100% understanding is not achieved graphically, at least it should have a hint of the meaning.




          Do my potential customers need to recognize my logo?




          100% yes.



          As in everything, I think it's about reaching a balance, if it turns in favor of one of the two options, much better for you, your company and your clients.





          Now:



          I don't think it's very positive to disadvantage this balance towards a negative point. In the case of your logo, beyond formal errors, which has them, there's a quite important conceptual controversy that leads any potential customer not to immediately interpret its meaning.



          The company is called “TWO-Bit Studios” and the main image perceived is a “1”.



          Beyond the meanings, there is formally a two represented with a one.



          A few years ago, quite a few, there was a stylistic tendency derived from deconstructivism that favored this type of interpretation to catch the public attention. There are examples in advertising, fashion, architecture and also in graphic design where for example a logo had some error in kerning, or alignment, or also some conceptual ambivalences. If in your case you talk about 2 and the image represents a 1 (and a 0), you are generating an ambiguity that can affect an effective result of your logo, which can be remembered for the “pseudo” error, but I don't think it will be interpreted.



          Imagine your logo with the name below:



          logo+name



          There is a graphic representation of four elements: the two, the one, the 0 and the bit b:





          • 4210b


          Maybe for a developer it might be something immediate, for a general public I don't think so.





          I am not a developer, but I know that among the main visual characteristics of the binary code are:




          • Items repetition

          • Equal distance between each component


          enter image description here



          Neither of these two features is represented to favor the shape of the letter b. Another point to increase the non-immediate interpretation.





          Personally I think there are too many elements for something so simple. Perhaps a cleaning in the conceptual argument favors both points raised in the question:




          • Do my potential customers need to understand the “meaning” of a logo?

          • Do my potential customers need to recognize the logo?






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          Do my potential customers need to understand the “meaning” of a logo?




          If a 100% understanding is not achieved graphically, at least it should have a hint of the meaning.




          Do my potential customers need to recognize my logo?




          100% yes.



          As in everything, I think it's about reaching a balance, if it turns in favor of one of the two options, much better for you, your company and your clients.





          Now:



          I don't think it's very positive to disadvantage this balance towards a negative point. In the case of your logo, beyond formal errors, which has them, there's a quite important conceptual controversy that leads any potential customer not to immediately interpret its meaning.



          The company is called “TWO-Bit Studios” and the main image perceived is a “1”.



          Beyond the meanings, there is formally a two represented with a one.



          A few years ago, quite a few, there was a stylistic tendency derived from deconstructivism that favored this type of interpretation to catch the public attention. There are examples in advertising, fashion, architecture and also in graphic design where for example a logo had some error in kerning, or alignment, or also some conceptual ambivalences. If in your case you talk about 2 and the image represents a 1 (and a 0), you are generating an ambiguity that can affect an effective result of your logo, which can be remembered for the “pseudo” error, but I don't think it will be interpreted.



          Imagine your logo with the name below:



          logo+name



          There is a graphic representation of four elements: the two, the one, the 0 and the bit b:





          • 4210b


          Maybe for a developer it might be something immediate, for a general public I don't think so.





          I am not a developer, but I know that among the main visual characteristics of the binary code are:




          • Items repetition

          • Equal distance between each component


          enter image description here



          Neither of these two features is represented to favor the shape of the letter b. Another point to increase the non-immediate interpretation.





          Personally I think there are too many elements for something so simple. Perhaps a cleaning in the conceptual argument favors both points raised in the question:




          • Do my potential customers need to understand the “meaning” of a logo?

          • Do my potential customers need to recognize the logo?







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              Yes, customers need to understand a logo, especially with a new first-contact, never-seen-this-before logo. They will — in time — recognize it after seeing it repeatedly, but it still needs to make sense for anyone looking at it for the first time, which could be likely to say:




              • is this really a "b"?

              • doesn't it look like a "ten"?

              • where's the "2"?

              • why different shades of white?

              • why semi-transparent?

              • why red?


              It just looks more complicated then it should be, but good to hear you're sending this off to a professional who may be able to give you a new perspective. As a designer, i think there's definitely a better way to look at this.






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                "10" is "2" in binary

                – mrchaarlie
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              • Yes, but quoting yourself: "most of the people I'd be doing development work probably wouldn't know any of that". If you type "10" anywhere, even a programmer will just read a "10" in the outside world where there's no text editor right in front of their eyes. If they see a 10$ bill would they think its a 2$ bill? :)) Would you take 2$ for a 10$ project?

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                2 hours ago


















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              Yes, customers need to understand a logo, especially with a new first-contact, never-seen-this-before logo. They will — in time — recognize it after seeing it repeatedly, but it still needs to make sense for anyone looking at it for the first time, which could be likely to say:




              • is this really a "b"?

              • doesn't it look like a "ten"?

              • where's the "2"?

              • why different shades of white?

              • why semi-transparent?

              • why red?


              It just looks more complicated then it should be, but good to hear you're sending this off to a professional who may be able to give you a new perspective. As a designer, i think there's definitely a better way to look at this.






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                "10" is "2" in binary

                – mrchaarlie
                2 hours ago











              • Yes, but quoting yourself: "most of the people I'd be doing development work probably wouldn't know any of that". If you type "10" anywhere, even a programmer will just read a "10" in the outside world where there's no text editor right in front of their eyes. If they see a 10$ bill would they think its a 2$ bill? :)) Would you take 2$ for a 10$ project?

                – Lucian
                2 hours ago
















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              Yes, customers need to understand a logo, especially with a new first-contact, never-seen-this-before logo. They will — in time — recognize it after seeing it repeatedly, but it still needs to make sense for anyone looking at it for the first time, which could be likely to say:




              • is this really a "b"?

              • doesn't it look like a "ten"?

              • where's the "2"?

              • why different shades of white?

              • why semi-transparent?

              • why red?


              It just looks more complicated then it should be, but good to hear you're sending this off to a professional who may be able to give you a new perspective. As a designer, i think there's definitely a better way to look at this.






              share|improve this answer















              Yes, customers need to understand a logo, especially with a new first-contact, never-seen-this-before logo. They will — in time — recognize it after seeing it repeatedly, but it still needs to make sense for anyone looking at it for the first time, which could be likely to say:




              • is this really a "b"?

              • doesn't it look like a "ten"?

              • where's the "2"?

              • why different shades of white?

              • why semi-transparent?

              • why red?


              It just looks more complicated then it should be, but good to hear you're sending this off to a professional who may be able to give you a new perspective. As a designer, i think there's definitely a better way to look at this.







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                "10" is "2" in binary

                – mrchaarlie
                2 hours ago











              • Yes, but quoting yourself: "most of the people I'd be doing development work probably wouldn't know any of that". If you type "10" anywhere, even a programmer will just read a "10" in the outside world where there's no text editor right in front of their eyes. If they see a 10$ bill would they think its a 2$ bill? :)) Would you take 2$ for a 10$ project?

                – Lucian
                2 hours ago
















              • 1





                "10" is "2" in binary

                – mrchaarlie
                2 hours ago











              • Yes, but quoting yourself: "most of the people I'd be doing development work probably wouldn't know any of that". If you type "10" anywhere, even a programmer will just read a "10" in the outside world where there's no text editor right in front of their eyes. If they see a 10$ bill would they think its a 2$ bill? :)) Would you take 2$ for a 10$ project?

                – Lucian
                2 hours ago










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              "10" is "2" in binary

              – mrchaarlie
              2 hours ago





              "10" is "2" in binary

              – mrchaarlie
              2 hours ago













              Yes, but quoting yourself: "most of the people I'd be doing development work probably wouldn't know any of that". If you type "10" anywhere, even a programmer will just read a "10" in the outside world where there's no text editor right in front of their eyes. If they see a 10$ bill would they think its a 2$ bill? :)) Would you take 2$ for a 10$ project?

              – Lucian
              2 hours ago







              Yes, but quoting yourself: "most of the people I'd be doing development work probably wouldn't know any of that". If you type "10" anywhere, even a programmer will just read a "10" in the outside world where there's no text editor right in front of their eyes. If they see a 10$ bill would they think its a 2$ bill? :)) Would you take 2$ for a 10$ project?

              – Lucian
              2 hours ago













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              Do my potential customers need to understand the “meaning” of a logo,
              or just recognize it?




              Simple answer: both



              To me all well established brands have logos with meaning. For example McDonalds is known for it's iconic arched M:



              enter image description here



              and Baskin Robins is known historically for 31 flavors of ice-cream:



              enter image description here



              references from: 29 Logos With Super Sneaky Hidden Meanings



              That said when I look at your logo I cannot put Two-Bit Studios into that logo. Maybe make the 1 more established by using a serif font deconstructed with a sans-serif 0 to come up with a b. Another suggestion on creation is you can use a play on words by implementing in the number 2 and use some breaking off bits, such as:



              enter image description here



              Another suggestion is not even to start looking or adding color. Stick to black and white in the creation phase. If you look at the two posted sample logos they each can work in black and white. If your logo cannot exist as black and white I'd argue is it not a well developed logo.






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                Do my potential customers need to understand the “meaning” of a logo,
                or just recognize it?




                Simple answer: both



                To me all well established brands have logos with meaning. For example McDonalds is known for it's iconic arched M:



                enter image description here



                and Baskin Robins is known historically for 31 flavors of ice-cream:



                enter image description here



                references from: 29 Logos With Super Sneaky Hidden Meanings



                That said when I look at your logo I cannot put Two-Bit Studios into that logo. Maybe make the 1 more established by using a serif font deconstructed with a sans-serif 0 to come up with a b. Another suggestion on creation is you can use a play on words by implementing in the number 2 and use some breaking off bits, such as:



                enter image description here



                Another suggestion is not even to start looking or adding color. Stick to black and white in the creation phase. If you look at the two posted sample logos they each can work in black and white. If your logo cannot exist as black and white I'd argue is it not a well developed logo.






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                  Do my potential customers need to understand the “meaning” of a logo,
                  or just recognize it?




                  Simple answer: both



                  To me all well established brands have logos with meaning. For example McDonalds is known for it's iconic arched M:



                  enter image description here



                  and Baskin Robins is known historically for 31 flavors of ice-cream:



                  enter image description here



                  references from: 29 Logos With Super Sneaky Hidden Meanings



                  That said when I look at your logo I cannot put Two-Bit Studios into that logo. Maybe make the 1 more established by using a serif font deconstructed with a sans-serif 0 to come up with a b. Another suggestion on creation is you can use a play on words by implementing in the number 2 and use some breaking off bits, such as:



                  enter image description here



                  Another suggestion is not even to start looking or adding color. Stick to black and white in the creation phase. If you look at the two posted sample logos they each can work in black and white. If your logo cannot exist as black and white I'd argue is it not a well developed logo.






                  share|improve this answer
















                  Do my potential customers need to understand the “meaning” of a logo,
                  or just recognize it?




                  Simple answer: both



                  To me all well established brands have logos with meaning. For example McDonalds is known for it's iconic arched M:



                  enter image description here



                  and Baskin Robins is known historically for 31 flavors of ice-cream:



                  enter image description here



                  references from: 29 Logos With Super Sneaky Hidden Meanings



                  That said when I look at your logo I cannot put Two-Bit Studios into that logo. Maybe make the 1 more established by using a serif font deconstructed with a sans-serif 0 to come up with a b. Another suggestion on creation is you can use a play on words by implementing in the number 2 and use some breaking off bits, such as:



                  enter image description here



                  Another suggestion is not even to start looking or adding color. Stick to black and white in the creation phase. If you look at the two posted sample logos they each can work in black and white. If your logo cannot exist as black and white I'd argue is it not a well developed logo.







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